Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Richard, No offense but that group was soundly rejected for many reasons (lack of transparency being one, also forcing one unproven theory upon the schools as another). My point is that sometimes creating a new organization can be worse then what we currently have now and a step in the wrong direction. I would say lets fix what we have right now. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:40:45 -0400 Re: legal question/scope of practice Michael You miss my point. Its not that I want a new sandbox. Its that that appears to be the only way to present an alternative. After I was illegally thrown out of the state AOM organization I formed a new one which also is a national one. The AOMNCC has over 1200 national members and 400 in Florida. It must have been a real threat to the existing sandboxe(s) as the website was hacked for a short while for someone to SEE about our membership. That mistake won;t happen again. The AOMNCC (a for profit corp) which is the ONLY organization that ever filed a Federal Class Action RICO lawsuit in 2004. Where were all the other state and national orgs? The AOMNCC supported the Federal Acupuncture Bill in 2003 when no other organizations did. Now some six years later everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. I mention these issues because creating new sandboxes does cause change. As to ANY national testing agency..... I would agree. They have no business in 2 different kinds of businesses especially a Board Certification. Richard In a message dated 10/12/2009 5:31:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, They had previously removed this verbage from their website and now they conveniently use quotation marks around the terms as if it is something to hint at but not undertake (ala, Austin Powers). I was unaware that they had added it back and only found it now on their handbook. I know that you want a new sandbox, just not sure that I want to dive into this one until I understand more about our problems with the NCCAOM and state regulatory laws. There does appear to be too much intermingling of things between the two. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Richard, How do you know that I have not been involved? Upon moving here, I volunteered many 100's of hours and worked with an attorney on the legal subcommittee for the state acupuncture association on changes that need to be made to our scope of practice. I then put together some info and presented a seminar on various legal aspects of our acupuncture law. Like you, I met with resistance to the seminar by practitioners that had little understanding of this info and did not want their world view changed (big difference from the larger schools). I was even told that I should offer this seminar for free, even though I did it all on my time and outside of the association. I have truly been hopeful that changes would happen so that the profession can move forward and be more accepted but got tired of waiting. So, then I went back to school to create more options for myself and now I have a much greater scope of practice and a doctorate degree as well. I have fought the good fight and had to leave the profession where it wants to remain. You have also worked hard on the professional issues, so thanks are in order to your as well. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:40:26 -0400 Re: legal question/scope of practice Michael This is just a question and not to be taken as legal advice or any advice. Why don't you do something about it in the state you are in? Be proactive! Richard In a message dated 10/13/09 10:29:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, I agree with this as well. If I was back in Cali, I would not need mine either. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Richard, That is not so and healthcare is a great example where the marketplace has not worked out so well for us. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:37:59 -0400 Re: legal question/scope of practice Michael Although NOMAA may have had some problems they represented competition to the present system which was a good thing. When there is a monopoly.........that presents in problems. No easy answer but competition is always GOOD. Richard In a message dated 10/13/09 10:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Richard, No offense but that group was soundly rejected for many reasons (lack of transparency being one, also forcing one unproven theory upon the schools as another). My point is that sometimes creating a new organization can be worse then what we currently have now and a step in the wrong direction. I would say lets fix what we have right now. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 D, A lot depends upon on your ability to get a Visa from the US govt. You also need to check into the laws of any states you wish to live and practice in. Depending upon the state, you will need to most likely take a licensing exam or if the state requires the NCCAOM exams. California gives its own exam and is by far the hardest one to pass. This whole thing gets kind of tricky, so it is best to know where you plan to be. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine delgerzul Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:06:50 -0700 Re: legal question/scope of practice hi all I red all your e-mails about certificate. My name is Delgerzul I'm from Mongolia ( not Inner Mongolia). And i graduated from Guangzhou TCM University.I'm more interested in acupuncture. if i want to work in USA by my profession, which kind of license do i need, what kind of exams do i need to pass.do i need to take NCCAOM exams? if someone send me suggestion and some informational websites which could help newcomers, i would be very glad. sorry about my poor English sincerely DEGI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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