Guest guest Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I agree with all of you that NCCAOM does charge way too much for essentially seeing that we have done 60 hours of continuing education. The problem I see with a new group, is developing a set of tests to assure that only qualified people are practicing. The NCCAOM tests are pretty work related with the exception of the Biomedicine test which in my experience has nothing to do with anything I do in my practice. The other problem is getting the states which require certification to accept the new certifying body. Zinnia cmszinnia attentivedragon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 The problem I see with a new group, is developing a set of tests to assure that only qualified people are practicing. Lonny: An academic test can't ascertain this. Schools should be accredited and subject to review. Graduation from an accredited school should be the sole criteria for entering practice. There is no " core knowledge " in TCM that can be assessed by a multiple choice test that can " assure only qualified people are practicing. " Such tests are based on values and a multiple choice test can't ascertain any of the most significant aspects of what qualify anyone to practice. Testing in this way is an archaic model and I've seen little evidence that it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Lonny is right. I think this is where our profession took a wrong turn. So much focus is placed upon a test score and little upon a student's development. If there was a way to do this, that would be the best idea yet. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine Revolution Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:29:56 -0400 Re:NCCAOM certification The problem I see with a new group, is developing a set of tests to assure that only qualified people are practicing. Lonny: An academic test can't ascertain this. Schools should be accredited and subject to review. Graduation from an accredited school should be the sole criteria for entering practice. There is no " core knowledge " in TCM that can be assessed by a multiple choice test that can " assure only qualified people are practicing. " Such tests are based on values and a multiple choice test can't ascertain any of the most significant aspects of what qualify anyone to practice. Testing in this way is an archaic model and I've seen little evidence that it works. _______________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 The profession took its FIRST wrong turn when it failed to start acupuncture education in the regionally accredited 2 year colleges and this cottage industry was set up to make big bucks!! In a message dated 10/11/09 9:49:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Lonny is right. I think this is where our profession took a wrong turn. So much focus is placed upon a test score and little upon a student's development. If there was a way to do this, that would be the best idea yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Michael The difference would have been that a 2 yr acupuncture program in the regionally accredited 2 yr colleges would have grown up into a 4 yr regionally accredited college and a 4 yr regionally accredited program...... ...which does not say anything about whether that would have been a ideal acupuncture program. The literati and/or elders of our profession have spoken about the short comings of the masters programs which exist and what to do about it. The education has been driven by forces which should have stayed out of the kitchen. Richard In a message dated 10/12/2009 5:37:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Maybe but some acupuncture schools are in regionally accredited schools and are not altogether that much better. I have worked and graduated from one of these large schools. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Maybe but some acupuncture schools are in regionally accredited schools and are not altogether that much better. I have worked and graduated from one of these large schools. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:04:17 -0400 Re: Re:NCCAOM certification The profession took its FIRST wrong turn when it failed to start acupuncture education in the regionally accredited 2 year colleges and this cottage industry was set up to make big bucks!! In a message dated 10/11/09 9:49:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Lonny is right. I think this is where our profession took a wrong turn. So much focus is placed upon a test score and little upon a student's development. If there was a way to do this, that would be the best idea yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Richard, This may be true, but we will never know. From my example, I cannot agree with your perception on this. We should have created guidelines before we created all of these programs. As things stand, we will remain everything from a mom-and-pop school to regionally accredited colleges. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc11 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:25:29 -0400 Re: Re:NCCAOM certification Michael The difference would have been that a 2 yr acupuncture program in the regionally accredited 2 yr colleges would have grown up into a 4 yr regionally accredited college and a 4 yr regionally accredited program...... ...which does not say anything about whether that would have been a ideal acupuncture program. The literati and/or elders of our profession have spoken about the short comings of the masters programs which exist and what to do about it. The education has been driven by forces which should have stayed out of the kitchen. Richard In a message dated 10/12/2009 5:37:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, naturaldoc1 writes: Maybe but some acupuncture schools are in regionally accredited schools and are not altogether that much better. I have worked and graduated from one of these large schools. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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