New scientific breakthrough proves why acupuncture works

[Guest guest]

See: http://tinyurl.com/ykkpfvo

 

Regards,

 

Attilio

http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

[Guest guest]

Attilio,

I saw this yesterday too...

but isn't C-fibres - acupuncture research not novel?

 

Does anyone remember the studies done in the 90s

and published in Clinical Acupuncture- A scientific basis.. G stux.. B.

Pomeranz.

Can't remember the exact study... does anyone have this info?

 

K

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM, attiliodalberto <

attiliodalberto wrote:

 

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>

> See: http://tinyurl.com/ykkpfvo

>

> Regards,

>

> Attilio

> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>

>

>

 

 

 

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When one pill of the great elixir forms in the furnace,

The embryonic immortal in the room dances three leaps.

The four signs and five energies all combine harmoniously,

The nine-restoration and seven-reversion complete the work cycle.

The radiant form of the moon appears from the hut,

The shining light illumines the universe.

" The Book of Balance and Harmony "

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

There is something though, I have seen the Stomach Channel be the pathway to

tumors caused by, especially Lepto vaccines administered to pups, then within 3

weeks the histiocytomas appear on the muzzel of the stomach channel. Also, the

lymph channels carry the pathogens, like the rabies virus in rabies vaccines and

the cancers come out on the acupunture points of significant immune channel, not

just me, several veterinary acupuncturists have noted and documented this. Would

this not just be the place of immune cell engagement?

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

magisterium_magnum

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:48:44 -0700

Re: New scientific breakthrough proves why acupuncture works

 

 

 

 

 

These studies are always trying to " prove " how acupuncture " really " works.

Because they don't want to accept that it " moves qi. "

Even now with the Bonghan Channels, and the finding that they " transmit

white light, " the emphasis is on " explaining " it in terms of information

processing, bio-photons and " electromagnetic theory. "

I believe the aether theory is an extreme threat to the " establishment, " not

only in the medical-pharmaceutical complex but the military industrial as

well. But again, I'm radical.

" Meridians exist, but they cause cancer! "

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S2005290109600431

 

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" " <johnkokko

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:10 AM

Re: New scientific breakthrough proves why acupuncture works

 

> Attilio,

> I saw this yesterday too...

> but isn't C-fibres - acupuncture research not novel?

>

> Does anyone remember the studies done in the 90s

> and published in Clinical Acupuncture- A scientific basis.. G stux.. B.

> Pomeranz.

> Can't remember the exact study... does anyone have this info?

>

> K

>

>

>

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM, attiliodalberto <

> attiliodalberto wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> See: http://tinyurl.com/ykkpfvo

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Attilio

>> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

>

>

> When one pill of the great elixir forms in the furnace,

> The embryonic immortal in the room dances three leaps.

> The four signs and five energies all combine harmoniously,

> The nine-restoration and seven-reversion complete the work cycle.

> The radiant form of the moon appears from the hut,

> The shining light illumines the universe.

> " The Book of Balance and Harmony "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

These studies are always trying to " prove " how acupuncture " really " works.

Because they don't want to accept that it " moves qi. "

Even now with the Bonghan Channels, and the finding that they " transmit

white light, " the emphasis is on " explaining " it in terms of information

processing, bio-photons and " electromagnetic theory. "

I believe the aether theory is an extreme threat to the " establishment, " not

only in the medical-pharmaceutical complex but the military industrial as

well. But again, I'm radical.

" Meridians exist, but they cause cancer! "

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S2005290109600431

 

 

 

 

-

" " <johnkokko

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:10 AM

Re: New scientific breakthrough proves why acupuncture works

 

 

> Attilio,

> I saw this yesterday too...

> but isn't C-fibres - acupuncture research not novel?

>

> Does anyone remember the studies done in the 90s

> and published in Clinical Acupuncture- A scientific basis.. G stux.. B.

> Pomeranz.

> Can't remember the exact study... does anyone have this info?

>

> K

>

>

>

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM, attiliodalberto <

> attiliodalberto wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> See: http://tinyurl.com/ykkpfvo

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Attilio

>> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

>

>

> When one pill of the great elixir forms in the furnace,

> The embryonic immortal in the room dances three leaps.

> The four signs and five energies all combine harmoniously,

> The nine-restoration and seven-reversion complete the work cycle.

> The radiant form of the moon appears from the hut,

> The shining light illumines the universe.

> " The Book of Balance and Harmony "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mercurius,

here you can find the full article, that Prof. Soh

sent me before publication, as my theory (the

circle in the kidney channel ankle path...)

corroborated with his work:

 

http://tinyurl.com/nnmf55

 

According to the results, he says that Bonghan

system could be a path for the cancer metastasis

diffusion and NOT AT ALL a cause of metastasis.

I agree with you that " the aether theory is an

extreme threat to the " establishment " , but I don't

think Prof. Soh sits at the right side of the

establishment.

Ciao,

Stefano Marcelli

Italy

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

[Chinese Medicine

om] On Behalf Of Mercurius Trismegistus

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:49 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: New scientific breakthrough

proves why acupuncture works

 

 

These studies are always trying to " prove " how

acupuncture " really " works.

Because they don't want to accept that it " moves

qi. "

Even now with the Bonghan Channels, and the

finding that they " transmit

white light, " the emphasis is on " explaining " it

in terms of information

processing, bio-photons and " electromagnetic

theory. "

I believe the aether theory is an extreme threat

to the " establishment, " not

only in the medical-pharmaceutical complex but the

military industrial as

well. But again, I'm radical.

" Meridians exist, but they cause cancer! "

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S20052

90109600431

 

-

" " <johnkokko

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:10 AM

Re: New scientific breakthrough

proves why acupuncture works

 

> Attilio,

> I saw this yesterday too...

> but isn't C-fibres - acupuncture research not

novel?

>

> Does anyone remember the studies done in the 90s

> and published in Clinical Acupuncture- A

scientific basis.. G stux.. B.

> Pomeranz.

> Can't remember the exact study... does anyone

have this info?

>

> K

>

>

>

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM,

attiliodalberto <

> attiliodalberto wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> See: http://tinyurl.com/ykkpfvo

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Attilio

>> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

>

>

> When one pill of the great elixir forms in the

furnace,

> The embryonic immortal in the room dances three

leaps.

> The four signs and five energies all combine

harmoniously,

> The nine-restoration and seven-reversion

complete the work cycle.

> The radiant form of the moon appears from the

hut,

> The shining light illumines the universe.

> " The Book of Balance and Harmony "

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>

>

>

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Chinese Medicine , <johnkokko

wrote:

>

> Attilio,

> I saw this yesterday too...

> but isn't C-fibres - acupuncture research not novel?

 

 

News of this latest research resulted in the following headline in the national

daily newspaper here in Australia [Curtin University is Australian]:

 

" Nerves Wrecked by Needle Pain Cure "

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,26170808-23289,00.html

 

The quality and nature of the journalism elicited an immediate repsonse from our

national acupuncture and TCM association - AACMA.

The AACMA response also included general comments and observations about C-fibre

research, skin resistance, the pain mechanism, and acupuncture.

 

Those of you interested in that response, might want to contact AACMA via this

link: www.acupuncture.org.au

 

Thomas Lundeberg et al - Sweden - have written extensively about acupuncture and

the limbic system, the CNS, ANS, and peripheral NS; pain, emotions and reward,

'sham' acupuncture etc.

I find their work fascinating, and invaluable. - often published in the journal

Acupuncture in Medicine: ISSN 0964-5284

 

The Dec 2006 edition of that journal also contains an article by Anthony

Campbell - 'Role of C tactile fibres in touch and emotion - clinical and

research relevance to acupuncture'.

 

C fibres - he states - are thought to be responsible for feelings of calm and

wellbeing and are elicited by gentle manual stimulation, as in stroking'.

 

It puts 'wrecking' nerves in a whole new light.

 

Margi Macdonald

http://margihealing.wordpress.com/

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the article. I just thought it was kind of humerous. Not even

saying it isn't possible. I just thought it was ironic that the official

line went from not existing to existing, etc, then you see something about

meridians being involved with cancer.

 

 

 

 

-

" stefanomarcelli " <stefanomarcelli

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:55 PM

RE: New scientific breakthrough proves why acupuncture works

 

 

Dear Mercurius,

here you can find the full article, that Prof. Soh

sent me before publication, as my theory (the

circle in the kidney channel ankle path...)

corroborated with his work:

 

http://tinyurl.com/nnmf55

 

According to the results, he says that Bonghan

system could be a path for the cancer metastasis

diffusion and NOT AT ALL a cause of metastasis.

I agree with you that " the aether theory is an

extreme threat to the " establishment " , but I don't

think Prof. Soh sits at the right side of the

establishment.

Ciao,

Stefano Marcelli

Italy

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

[Chinese Medicine

om] On Behalf Of Mercurius Trismegistus

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:49 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: New scientific breakthrough

proves why acupuncture works

 

 

These studies are always trying to " prove " how

acupuncture " really " works.

Because they don't want to accept that it " moves

qi. "

Even now with the Bonghan Channels, and the

finding that they " transmit

white light, " the emphasis is on " explaining " it

in terms of information

processing, bio-photons and " electromagnetic

theory. "

I believe the aether theory is an extreme threat

to the " establishment, " not

only in the medical-pharmaceutical complex but the

military industrial as

well. But again, I'm radical.

" Meridians exist, but they cause cancer! "

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S20052

90109600431

 

-

" " <johnkokko

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:10 AM

Re: New scientific breakthrough

proves why acupuncture works

 

> Attilio,

> I saw this yesterday too...

> but isn't C-fibres - acupuncture research not

novel?

>

> Does anyone remember the studies done in the 90s

> and published in Clinical Acupuncture- A

scientific basis.. G stux.. B.

> Pomeranz.

> Can't remember the exact study... does anyone

have this info?

>

> K

>

>

>

> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM,

attiliodalberto <

> attiliodalberto wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> See: http://tinyurl.com/ykkpfvo

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Attilio

>> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> --

>

>

> When one pill of the great elixir forms in the

furnace,

> The embryonic immortal in the room dances three

leaps.

> The four signs and five energies all combine

harmoniously,

> The nine-restoration and seven-reversion

complete the work cycle.

> The radiant form of the moon appears from the

hut,

> The shining light illumines the universe.

> " The Book of Balance and Harmony "

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>

>

>

> ---

>

> Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at

Times

> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

>

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> and acupuncture, click,

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Margi:

---

" Nerves Wrecked by Needle Pain Cure "

---

 

I am so grateful that you posted this because now I know why I can't feel

anything over my whole body.

 

Hugo " I am become Acupunctura, destroyer of c-fibers! " Ramiro

 

 

 

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.middlemedicine.org