Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 It is in the MMIII - Licorice Tips (甘è‰æ¢¢ gän câo shäo) “Rather cooling in nature, the tips drain fire and resolve toxicity, and excel in the treatment of damp-heat pouring downward into the Bladder and causing urethral pain. This method of preparation is specified in the formula Guide Out the Red Powder (dâo chì sân).†Yehuda - if you do not have this book is a must-have for herbalists. - On Behalf Of yehuda frischman Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:37 AM TCM ; Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine Gan Cao Shao? Dear Colleagues, In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae). Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? Thanks as always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Yehuda Gan Cao Shao is the name of the small root fibers of the gancao plant. It is traditionally used for clearing heat and toxins from the male genitals. Daniel Chinese Traditional Medicine ; Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:36:48 -0700 Gan Cao Shao? Dear Colleagues, In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae). Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? Thanks as always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 This is the tiny root hairs of Licorice. It is not a pao-zhi method. It is a different part of the plant. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanks, Bob, is it readily available? ________________________________ pemachophel2001 <bob Thu, October 15, 2009 11:43:00 AM Re: Gan Cao Shao? This is the tiny root hairs of Licorice. It is not a pao-zhi method. It is a different part of the plant. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Also, what are its properties, flavors, indications and actions. Where historically has it been mentioned? ________________________________ pemachophel2001 <bob Thu, October 15, 2009 11:43:00 AM Re: Gan Cao Shao? This is the tiny root hairs of Licorice. It is not a pao-zhi method. It is a different part of the plant. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanks Jason. I know that I need to get it . Thanks for the info.    ________________________________ Thu, October 15, 2009 9:56:57 AM RE: Gan Cao Shao?  It is in the MMIII - Licorice Tips (甘è‰æ¢¢ gän câo shäo) “Rather cooling in nature, the tips drain fire and resolve toxicity, and excel in the treatment of damp-heat pouring downward into the Bladder and causing urethral pain. This method of preparation is specified in the formula Guide Out the Red Powder (dâo chì sân).†Yehuda - if you do not have this book is a must-have for herbalists. - [@ . com] On Behalf Of yehuda frischman Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:37 AM TCM ; Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine Gan Cao Shao? Dear Colleagues, In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae) . Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? Thanks as always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Again, thanks to Daniel, Jason and Bob. Let me be specific. I have a very athletic patient in his 50s, who 5 years ago came down with a severe case of Guillain-Barre syndrome. Though he has difficulty walking, he has built himself back up by swimming an hour daily. When I started treating him about a month ago, both proximal pulses were empty, and slow but as would be expected, the distal pulses on the right wrist are robust. I have been treating him with a combination of You Gui wan and Xiao Huo Luo Dan, along with acupuncture and heat (a combination of infrared heat and moxa, alternatingly). The first condition that I treated him for was ulcerated sores or his feet and toes with numbness, similar to diabetics with neuropathy. Though the sores have now healed completely, the extremities are still cold. His proximal pulses are now thready and a little slow and weak. None of his pulses give any indication of a slippery or rapid quality. All the above is background to my actual question: His chief complaint is urinary obstruction and unrelenting pain upon urination. In order to urinate he has to gently massage his penis, and even then only a few drop come out. It is very painful, and he is afflicted by it day and night, every half hour or so. But wait, before you jump on the prostatitis and damp heat bandwagon, first, as I mentioned above neither his pulses nor tongue reflect that at all. Second, he saw his urologist yesterday, who upon examination and testing said that there is no evidence of infection, and though, his prostate is marginally enlarged, it is consistant with someone his age, and certainly contributes little to his current condition. Also, there is no urinary retention, and so a catheter would not be helpful at all. The current condition, he said, was clearly the result of scar tissue and stricture, the result of the GBS from 5 years ago in the penis and urethra. He is open to an herbal formula, and thus my inqury about Gan Cao Shao, which from what you have described may not be indicated. Clearly, what I need to prepare is a formula that will invigorate blood stasis, while continuing to warm and open the channels, boost Kidney Yang and nourish Kidney Jing. The benefit of your experience would be appreciated. ________________________________ Daniel Altschuler <daltsch Thu, October 15, 2009 10:57:31 AM RE: Gan Cao Shao? Yehuda Gan Cao Shao is the name of the small root fibers of the gancao plant. It is traditionally used for clearing heat and toxins from the male genitals. Daniel traditional_ chinese_medicine ; Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine@ . com Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:36:48 -0700 Gan Cao Shao? Dear Colleagues, In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae) . Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? Thanks as always, www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 One other unpleasant side effect: When he bears down too hard trying to urinate, he involuntarily defecates. ________________________________ Thu, October 15, 2009 12:44:54 PM Re: Gan Cao Shao? Again, thanks to Daniel, Jason and Bob. Let me be specific. I have a very athletic patient in his 50s, who 5 years ago came down with a severe case of Guillain-Barre syndrome. Though he has difficulty walking, he has built himself back up by swimming an hour daily. When I started treating him about a month ago, both proximal pulses were empty, and slow but as would be expected, the distal pulses on the right wrist are robust. I have been treating him with a combination of You Gui wan and Xiao Huo Luo Dan, along with acupuncture and heat (a combination of infrared heat and moxa, alternatingly) . The first condition that I treated him for was ulcerated sores or his feet and toes with numbness, similar to diabetics with neuropathy. Though the sores have now healed completely, the extremities are still cold. His proximal pulses are now thready and a little slow and weak. None of his pulses give any indication of a slippery or rapid quality. All the above is background to my actual question: His chief complaint is urinary obstruction and unrelenting pain upon urination. In order to urinate he has to gently massage his penis, and even then only a few drop come out. It is very painful, and he is afflicted by it day and night, every half hour or so. But wait, before you jump on the prostatitis and damp heat bandwagon, first, as I mentioned above neither his pulses nor tongue reflect that at all. Second, he saw his urologist yesterday, who upon examination and testing said that there is no evidence of infection, and though, his prostate is marginall y enlarged, it is consistant with someone his age, and certainly contributes little to his current condition. Also, there is no urinary retention, and so a catheter would not be helpful at all. The current condition, he said, was clearly the result of scar tissue and stricture, the result of the GBS from 5 years ago in the penis and urethra. He is open to an herbal formula, and thus my inqury about Gan Cao Shao, which from what you have described may not be indicated. Clearly, what I need to prepare is a formula that will invigorate blood stasis, while continuing to warm and open the channels, boost Kidney Yang and nourish Kidney Jing. The benefit of your experience would be appreciated. www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com ____________ _________ _________ __ Daniel Altschuler <daltsch (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Thu, October 15, 2009 10:57:31 AM RE: Gan Cao Shao? Yehuda Gan Cao Shao is the name of the small root fibers of the gancao plant. It is traditionally used for clearing heat and toxins from the male genitals. Daniel traditional_ chinese_medicine ; Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine@ . com Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:36:48 -0700 Gan Cao Shao? Dear Colleagues, In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae) . Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? Thanks as always, www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I was taught that gan can shao is the most diuretic part of the plant, hence it's inclusion in dao chi san. Cara O. Frank, R. OM Six Fishes China Herb Company Chinese Herb Department Tai Sophia Institute www.carafrank.com 215-772-0770 On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:55 PM, yehuda frischman wrote: > One other unpleasant side effect: When he bears down too hard > trying to urinate, he involuntarily defecates. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Thu, October 15, 2009 12:44:54 PM > Re: Gan Cao Shao? > > > Again, thanks to Daniel, Jason and Bob. > > Let me be specific. I have a very athletic patient in his 50s, who > 5 years ago came down with a severe case of Guillain-Barre > syndrome. Though he has difficulty walking, he has built himself > back up by swimming an hour daily. When I started treating him > about a month ago, both proximal pulses were empty, and slow but as > would be expected, the distal pulses on the right wrist are robust. > I have been treating him with a combination of You Gui wan and Xiao > Huo Luo Dan, along with acupuncture and heat (a combination of > infrared heat and moxa, alternatingly) . The first condition that I > treated him for was ulcerated sores or his feet and toes with > numbness, similar to diabetics with neuropathy. Though the sores > have now healed completely, the extremities are still cold. His > proximal pulses are now thready and a little slow and weak. None of > his pulses give any indication of a slippery or rapid quality. All > the above > is background to my actual question: > > His chief complaint is urinary obstruction and unrelenting pain upon > urination. In order to urinate he has to gently massage his penis, > and even then only a few drop come out. It is very painful, and he > is afflicted by it day and night, every half hour or so. But wait, > before you jump on the prostatitis and damp heat bandwagon, first, > as I mentioned above neither his pulses nor tongue reflect that at > all. Second, he saw his urologist yesterday, who upon examination > and testing said that there is no evidence of infection, and though, > his prostate is marginall y enlarged, it is consistant with someone > his age, and certainly contributes little to his current condition. > Also, there is no urinary retention, and so a catheter would not be > helpful at all. The current condition, he said, was clearly the > result of scar tissue and stricture, the result of the GBS from 5 > years ago in the penis and urethra. He is open to an > herbal formula, and thus my inqury about Gan Cao Shao, which from > what you have described may not be indicated. Clearly, what I need > to prepare is a formula that will invigorate blood stasis, while > continuing to warm and open the channels, boost Kidney Yang and > nourish Kidney Jing. > > The benefit of your experience would be appreciated. > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Daniel Altschuler <daltsch (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > > Thu, October 15, 2009 10:57:31 AM > RE: Gan Cao Shao? > > > > Yehuda > > Gan Cao Shao is the name of the small root fibers of the gancao > plant. It is traditionally used for clearing heat and toxins from > the male genitals. > > Daniel > > traditional_ chinese_medicine ; > Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine > > Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:36:48 -0700 > Gan Cao Shao? > > Dear Colleagues, > > In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with > " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating > Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have > never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia > Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae) . Is it perhaps a > special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique > species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao > Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions > that is listed as an option) or something else? > > Thanks as always, > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Dear Colleagues, In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae). Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? Thanks as always, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Pinyin: Gan Cao Shao Pharmaceutical: Radix Glycyrrhizae Uralensis extremities Botanical: Glycyrrhiza uralensis Fisch., Glycyrrhiza inflata Bat., Glycyrrhiza glabra L. (Leguminosae) Description: Licorice Root Tips. Origin: Mongolia, Shanxi, Gansu, Xinjiang. Actions: Expels toxins. Calms pain on urination. Regulates the nature of other drugs. Information found on TCMAssistant.com Regards, ~G Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > In Flaws and Sionneau's, " Treatment of Modern Western diseases with Chinese Medicine " on page 309 is listed in an a formula treating Interstitial Cystitis from Blood Stasis an ingredient that I have never heard of before, and wasn't able to find in my Materia Medicas: Gan Cao Shao (Radix Tennuis Glycyrrhizae). Is it perhaps a special Pao Zhi, a manner of preparing Gan Cao, is it a unique species of Gan Cao, (I don't think that it is short hand for Shao Yao Gan Cao Pian, because later in the additions and substitutions that is listed as an option) or something else? > > Thanks as always, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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