Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Heylaura, I might have run into this problem about 4 times, 4 different patients. It may be different, but similar symptoms. One have a very difficult swallowing food or fluids, it hurt bad. Physical body was fine and healthy.................. Pulse was fast but tight.......... Rx : P6 not deep, surface only, needling toward the shoulder. In minutes, the pain disappeared. I had this patient eating to see if it resolved. Perfectly, fine for years.......... Not recurred. Another had emotional problems, feel tired, sad, and crying most of the time... Pale face, deep- thready pulse. Eating got choke at the throat, same as with drinking..... Rx : P6 ( needling deeper, at mid level, upward to the shoulder ), within minutes, usually 2 - 3 min..... Problems solved............ No recurred , 3 yrs passed.......... Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down close to the heart, so painful, almost losing breath, attempted to suicide several times........ Emotional problems, anger easily, crying most of the time, talking very loud and non-stop......... Forceful, wiry pulse, red face, dry tongue................. Rx : P6 , insert needle midway, toward the shoulder, having patient eating afterward and asked patient to swallow. She immediately felt pain. Needle at this time pressed and twisted slowly, within seconds food passed........ No more pain, no more choke......... Asked patient again to eat, no more choking............. no more feeling pain. All of these above, if we analyze there would be different causes, different diagnosis. However, the treatment is one.................. Only one pt is chosen P6......... Manipulation is depended on each cause and each pulse.......... NO herbs were prescribed. I hope this will help your case ! WHY DID I CHOOSE THIS POINT ? Pericardium, Heart, SI, Sanjiao channnels are the channels of EXTREMEQI , related to ( Fire Element ).Regulate Qi , everything will turn out fine, but not any Qi. Only the Qi that communicate to the throat. I would not fix something which has no problem, Liver Qi or Ki Qi were not involved, so I did not touch them. LET THEM BE IF THEY ARE FINE.......... Beside, the throat, or heart are UPPERJIAO. Upperjiao, or upper level related to Fire, Qi. Heart Qi, and Pericardium Qi travel through the esophagus, or throat directly to the head. Please do not think Acupuncture does not work........ It works in a miracle way, but we should know how. Good luck !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Thanks for your thoughts. I agree--sometimes the most powerful treatment is one point. Its easy to get lost in complicated acupuncture treatments or thinking herbs are the only answer, but sometimes the best treatment turns out to be one well selected point. In this case, I have tried acupuncture on her without herbs. But maybe I should try nothing but P6. Not a bad idea. Chinese Medicine , Nam Nguyen <dr_namnguyen58 wrote: > > Heylaura, > I might have run into this problem about 4 times, 4 different patients. It may be different, but similar symptoms. > One have a very difficult swallowing food or fluids, it hurt bad. Physical body was fine and healthy.................. Pulse was fast but tight.......... Rx : P6 not deep, surface only, needling toward the shoulder. In minutes, the pain disappeared. I had this patient eating to see if it resolved. Perfectly, fine for years.......... Not recurred. > Another had emotional problems, feel tired, sad, and crying most of the time... Pale face, deep- thready pulse. Eating got choke at the throat, same as with drinking..... Rx : P6 ( needling deeper, at mid level, upward to the shoulder ), within minutes, usually 2 - 3 min..... Problems solved............ No recurred , 3 yrs passed.......... > Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down close to the heart, so painful, almost losing breath, attempted to suicide several times........ Emotional problems, anger easily, crying most of the time, talking very loud and non-stop......... Forceful, wiry pulse, red face, dry tongue................. Rx : P6 , insert needle midway, toward the shoulder, having patient eating afterward and asked patient to swallow. She immediately felt pain. Needle at this time pressed and twisted slowly, within seconds food passed........ No more pain, no more choke......... Asked patient again to eat, no more choking............. no more feeling pain. > All of these above, if we analyze there would be different causes, different diagnosis. However, the treatment is one.................. Only one pt is chosen P6......... Manipulation is depended on each cause and each pulse.......... NO herbs were prescribed. > > > I hope this will help your case ! > > WHY DID I CHOOSE THIS POINT ? > Pericardium, Heart, SI, Sanjiao channnels are the channels of EXTREMEQI , related to ( Fire Element ).Regulate Qi , everything will turn out fine, but not any Qi. Only the Qi that communicate to the throat. I would not fix something which has no problem, Liver Qi or Ki Qi were not involved, so I did not touch them. LET THEM BE IF THEY ARE FINE.......... Beside, the throat, or heart are UPPERJIAO. Upperjiao, or upper level related to Fire, Qi. > Heart Qi, and Pericardium Qi travel through the esophagus, or throat directly to the head. > > Please do not think Acupuncture does not work........ It works in a miracle way, but we should know how. > > Good luck !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Use BaGuaFa on neck. That means the use of BOTH Gua Sha and Cupping. Richard In a message dated 1/5/2010 4:24:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, heylaurag writes: Thanks for your thoughts. I agree--sometimes the most powerful treatment is one point. Its easy to get lost in complicated acupuncture treatments or thinking herbs are the only answer, but sometimes the best treatment turns out to be one well selected point. In this case, I have tried acupuncture on her without herbs. But maybe I should try nothing but P6. Not a bad idea. _Traditional_Traditional_<WBRTraditional_Tra_ (Chinese Medicine ) , Nam Nguyen <dr_namnguyen58@dr_> wrote: > > Heylaura, > I might have run into this problem about 4 times, 4 different patients. It may be different, but similar symptoms. > One have a very difficult swallowing food or fluids, it hurt bad. Physical body was fine and healthy..... One have One have a very difficult swallowin One have a very difficult swallowing food or fluids, it hurt bad. Physical body was fine and healthy.....<WBR>.........<WBR>.... Pulse was fast but tight.......<WBR>... Rx : P6 not One have a very > Another had emotional problems, feel tired, sad, and crying most of the time... Pale face, deep- thready pulse. Eating got choke at the throat, same as with drinking.... Anoth P6 ( needling deeper, at mid level, upward to the shoulder ), within minutes, usually 2 - 3 min..... Problems solved...... P6 ( needling deeper, at mid level, up P6 > Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down close to the heart, so painful, almost losing breath, attempted to suicide several times....... Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down close to the heart, so painful, almost l Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down clo Other, a Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down close to the heart, so painful, almost losing breath, attempted to suicide several times.......<WBR>. Emotional problems, anger easily, crying most of the time, talking v Other, after eating food got choke at th Other, after eating food got choke at the chest, down Other, after eating food got > All of these above, if we analyze there would be different causes, different diagnosis. However, the treatment is one......... All of these above, if we analyze there would be different causes, different diagnosis. However, the tr All of these above, if w > > > I hope this will help your case ! > > WHY DID I CHOOSE THIS POINT ? > Pericardium, Heart, SI, Sanjiao channnels are the channels of EXTREMEQI , related to ( Fire Element ).Regulate Qi , everything will turn out fine, but not any Qi. Only the Qi that communicate to the throat. I would not fix something which has no problem, Liver Qi or Ki Qi were not involved, so I did not touch them. LET THEM BE IF THEY ARE FINE........ Pericardium, Heart, SI, Sanjiao channnels are the channels of EXTREMEQI , related to ( Fire Elem > Heart Qi, and Pericardium Qi travel through the esophagus, or throat directly to the head. > > Please do not think Acupuncture does not work........ It works in a miracle way, but we should know how. > > Good luck !!!!!!!!!!!! G > > Nam Nguyen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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