Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Does anyone out there practice in Hawaii? I'm curious about the " climate " for acupucnturists there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Others will chime in... I used to live in Hawaii, but am now an ex-pat on the Mainland... still talking to friends to check out the " climate " ... which on every island is the same.... windward side = wet, leeward side = dry. If you're talking about setting up shop.... it depends on the island. I can tell you that everyone has already thought about moving there and practicing in paradise. So, obviously it's not going to be a walk in the park... there are acupuncturists everywhere. There are a couple of schools on Oahu and a school on the Big Island. A friend of mine went to Maui to practice and had a hard time getting paid patients (everyone wants to barter with da kine). He moved back to Minneapolis and had a thriving clinic going after that. Right now, the economy is hard-hit, so it's going to be even harder. You won't be able to charge that much for locals (think half as much as you're charging now) and people are not vacationing out there like they used to. In fact, the economy is really dismal out there in most places. Even if you worked at the hotels, there's no guarantees. There are people who've been there for 20+ years. They say, " we grew here. You flew here " . You'll be going up against hippies who had already predicted the ipad back in the 80s. They are very resourceful and they know the territory. So, short story is ... if you want to work in paradise, learn Spanish, but that doesn't mean you'll be making more dinero, but you'll get a nice tan for sure On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM, ibpokin <ibpokin wrote: > > > Does anyone out there practice in Hawaii? I'm curious about the " climate " > for acupucnturists there. > > > -- "" www.tcmreview.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thanks for your reply, John. My spouse was looking at a potential major promotion requiring her to move to Honolulu. If we took it, looks like I would not be working. I have enjoyed a very successful practice for many years mainland and, at my age, am not in the mood to struggle. Fortunately, I think we've decided not to go. And, Honolulu, quite frankly, would never be my idea of paradise. I was there in August and was absolutely shocked by how it had changed since I was there last in 1980. Maui, perhaps, is more in line with paradise. Chinese Medicine , <johnkokko wrote: > > Others will chime in... I used to live in Hawaii, but am now an ex-pat on > the Mainland... still talking to friends to check out the " climate " ... which > on every island is the same.... windward side = wet, leeward side = dry. > If you're talking about setting up shop.... > it depends on the island. > > I can tell you that everyone has already thought about moving there and > practicing in paradise. > So, obviously it's not going to be a walk in the park... there are > acupuncturists everywhere. > There are a couple of schools on Oahu and a school on the Big Island. > A friend of mine went to Maui to practice and had a hard time getting paid > patients > (everyone wants to barter with da kine). He moved back to Minneapolis and > had a thriving clinic going after that. > > Right now, the economy is hard-hit, so it's going to be even harder. You > won't be able to charge that much for locals (think half as much as you're > charging now) and people are not vacationing out there like they used to. > In fact, the economy is really dismal out there in most places. > Even if you worked at the hotels, there's no guarantees. There are people > who've been there for 20+ years. They say, " we grew here. You flew here " . > You'll be going up against hippies who had already predicted the ipad back > in the 80s. They are very resourceful and they know the territory. > > So, short story is ... if you want to work in paradise, learn Spanish, but > that doesn't mean you'll be making more dinero, but you'll get a nice tan > for sure > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM, ibpokin <ibpokin wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone out there practice in Hawaii? I'm curious about the " climate " > > for acupucnturists there. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "" > > > www.tcmreview.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 They also changed the laws so that your school had to be accredited or a candidate at the time of your graduation. They are inflexible about this, even though there are many people practicing in Hawaii who only went to school for one year and never got a single CEU. - Bill Chinese Medicine , " ibpokin " <ibpokin wrote: > > Thanks for your reply, John. My spouse was looking at a potential major promotion requiring her to move to Honolulu. If we took it, looks like I would not be working. I have enjoyed a very successful practice for many years mainland and, at my age, am not in the mood to struggle. Fortunately, I think we've decided not to go. And, Honolulu, quite frankly, would never be my idea of paradise. I was there in August and was absolutely shocked by how it had changed since I was there last in 1980. Maui, perhaps, is more in line with paradise. > > > Chinese Medicine , <johnkokko@> wrote: > > > > Others will chime in... I used to live in Hawaii, but am now an ex-pat on > > the Mainland... still talking to friends to check out the " climate " ... which > > on every island is the same.... windward side = wet, leeward side = dry. > > If you're talking about setting up shop.... > > it depends on the island. > > > > I can tell you that everyone has already thought about moving there and > > practicing in paradise. > > So, obviously it's not going to be a walk in the park... there are > > acupuncturists everywhere. > > There are a couple of schools on Oahu and a school on the Big Island. > > A friend of mine went to Maui to practice and had a hard time getting paid > > patients > > (everyone wants to barter with da kine). He moved back to Minneapolis and > > had a thriving clinic going after that. > > > > Right now, the economy is hard-hit, so it's going to be even harder. You > > won't be able to charge that much for locals (think half as much as you're > > charging now) and people are not vacationing out there like they used to. > > In fact, the economy is really dismal out there in most places. > > Even if you worked at the hotels, there's no guarantees. There are people > > who've been there for 20+ years. They say, " we grew here. You flew here " . > > You'll be going up against hippies who had already predicted the ipad back > > in the 80s. They are very resourceful and they know the territory. > > > > So, short story is ... if you want to work in paradise, learn Spanish, but > > that doesn't mean you'll be making more dinero, but you'll get a nice tan > > for sure > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM, ibpokin <ibpokin@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone out there practice in Hawaii? I'm curious about the " climate " > > > for acupucnturists there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "" > > > > > > www.tcmreview.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I practice in Hawaii (Oahu, but not Honolulu) and I think it has similar challenges of starting and growing a practice as many places. It takes time to establish relationships and yes money can be tight. The downswing in the economy has changed my demographics to more insurance versus 90% cash before. I love it here, the lifestyle and people which make the challenges worth it. Of course, I am one to write surfing into my daily schedule and honor my lifestyle over money, so I seem to fit right in here. As far as laws, they use the Natioanl exam and there are no CEU requirements for the state (which seems odd). There are other practitioners with D.Ac that I do not think attended as in depth of a program as I did at PCOM for my MS, because it was way before the Doctoral programs existed as we know them now. I maintain my California license so that if the tug to be with family wins out or a major tsunami occurs I do not need to take that exam again. Aloha Jenna Chinese Medicine , " bill_schoenbart " <plantmed2 wrote: > > They also changed the laws so that your school had to be accredited or a candidate at the time of your graduation. They are inflexible about this, even though there are many people practicing in Hawaii who only went to school for one year and never got a single CEU. > > - Bill > > > > Chinese Medicine , " ibpokin " <ibpokin@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for your reply, John. My spouse was looking at a potential major promotion requiring her to move to Honolulu. If we took it, looks like I would not be working. I have enjoyed a very successful practice for many years mainland and, at my age, am not in the mood to struggle. Fortunately, I think we've decided not to go. And, Honolulu, quite frankly, would never be my idea of paradise. I was there in August and was absolutely shocked by how it had changed since I was there last in 1980. Maui, perhaps, is more in line with paradise. > > > > > > Chinese Medicine , <johnkokko@> wrote: > > > > > > Others will chime in... I used to live in Hawaii, but am now an ex-pat on > > > the Mainland... still talking to friends to check out the " climate " ... which > > > on every island is the same.... windward side = wet, leeward side = dry. > > > If you're talking about setting up shop.... > > > it depends on the island. > > > > > > I can tell you that everyone has already thought about moving there and > > > practicing in paradise. > > > So, obviously it's not going to be a walk in the park... there are > > > acupuncturists everywhere. > > > There are a couple of schools on Oahu and a school on the Big Island. > > > A friend of mine went to Maui to practice and had a hard time getting paid > > > patients > > > (everyone wants to barter with da kine). He moved back to Minneapolis and > > > had a thriving clinic going after that. > > > > > > Right now, the economy is hard-hit, so it's going to be even harder. You > > > won't be able to charge that much for locals (think half as much as you're > > > charging now) and people are not vacationing out there like they used to. > > > In fact, the economy is really dismal out there in most places. > > > Even if you worked at the hotels, there's no guarantees. There are people > > > who've been there for 20+ years. They say, " we grew here. You flew here " . > > > You'll be going up against hippies who had already predicted the ipad back > > > in the 80s. They are very resourceful and they know the territory. > > > > > > So, short story is ... if you want to work in paradise, learn Spanish, but > > > that doesn't mean you'll be making more dinero, but you'll get a nice tan > > > for sure > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM, ibpokin <ibpokin@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone out there practice in Hawaii? I'm curious about the " climate " > > > > for acupucnturists there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > "" > > > > > > > > > www.tcmreview.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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