Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 Hi All, I received this question from a site visitor. Pe Min Kan Wan rings a bell in the nether reaches of my head in regard to contamination. Does anyone know if it's on the "bad patent" list? TIA, JOE After trying every western medicine possible for allergies, includingshots for 9 years, I stumbled on a product called Pe Min Kan Wan. Itook three tables three times a day for a week and have never feltbetter. My concern is how often do I take this and is it a safemedication??Thank you so much for any help you can offer.Sincerely,Anna Dickinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 I know that at one time, the Oregon College of Oriental Medicine was concerned about buying Pe Min Kan Wan because we were getting it from a non-GMP company and there was a fear that it might contain pharmaceuticals as Chinese patents sometimes do if you're not careful about what company they're purchased from or if it's a counterfeit brand. For example, one of my clients purchased Yin Qiao Chieh Tu Pian from a local Chinese grocery and she'd always get a buzz from it. I'm sure it probably had some drug component that was not listed on the ingredients. She brought what was ostensibly the same formula from me, imported by Mayway, and never got the drug buzz from it. Mayway is a GMP company, and it currently sells a version of Pe Min Kan Wan (which is kind of a modification of Cang Er Zi San), and I definitely trust their product. Any other patent producing companies that practitioners trust? Jeff Jeff > " Joseph Balensi " <jlb > > > Re: Patient question >Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:05:21 -0700 > >Hi All, > >I received this question from a site visitor. Pe Min Kan Wan rings a bell >in the nether reaches of my head >in regard to contamination. Does anyone know if it's on the " bad patent " >list? > >TIA, JOE > >After trying every western medicine possible for allergies, including >shots for 9 years, I stumbled on a product called Pe Min Kan Wan. I >took three tables three times a day for a week and have never felt >better. My concern is how often do I take this and is it a safe >medication?? >Thank you so much for any help you can offer. >Sincerely, >Anna Dickinson > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 Pe Min Kan Wan >>>It contains antihistamins] Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 , <alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > Pe Min Kan Wan > >>>It contains antihistamins] > Alon some brands, not plum flower, may contain bear bile (xiong dan), which is produced through an extremely cruel process from an animal that may be endangered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 on 12/26/00 4:34 PM, Jeff Gould at jeffgould wrote: > I know that at one time, the Oregon College of Oriental Medicine was > concerned about buying Pe Min Kan Wan because we were getting it from a > non-GMP company and there was a fear that it might contain pharmaceuticals > as Chinese patents sometimes do if you're not careful about what company > they're purchased from or if it's a counterfeit brand. > > For example, one of my clients purchased Yin Qiao Chieh Tu Pian from a local > Chinese grocery and she'd always get a buzz from it. I'm sure it probably > had some drug component that was not listed on the ingredients. She brought > what was ostensibly the same formula from me, imported by Mayway, and never > got the drug buzz from it. > As Alon noted, Pi Min Kan Wan has antihistamines in it. The yin qiao chieh tu pain has chlorpromazine in it. Gives you a buzz. You can tell contaminated yin qiao, it will say 'extra strength'. Also, watch out for any sugar tablets from China that look like M & M's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 some brands, not plum flower, may contain bear bile (xiong dan), which is produced through an extremely cruel process from an animal that may be endangered >>>>The Pe Min Kan Wan that comes in the white green or green white box contained antihistamines. That is why plum flower makes their own. And it does not work as well. Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Hi all - I have a new patient who has given me permission to consult with my international advisory board to get some advice. He is a 23 yo, who was very healthy and involved in sports. At 19 he developed severe colitis, lost a lot of weight in 9 months. Medication (icluding flagell) was tried with no success, and he ultimately had his colon removed, and was given a J-pouch in 9/07. The J-pouch gets bacterial infections; he seems to have a few good months, then the infection. The doctors are starting to talk about removing the J-pouch and giving him a colostomy bag externally, which her really, really doesn't want. He has currently been on Cipro and flagell for about 6 months, also takes a probiotic. He also has panic attacks, which seem to come on when he gets sick. Stools are never fully formed, often is diarrhea (fake colon, no peristalsis - anyone know how the stools move out?). He will have loss of appetite when the infection starts in the J-pouch, also nausea. His energy is low, which he finds difficult as he's trying to get a degree. He's clearly not getting much nutrition. On first visit, his tongue is a bit blue, no coat, quivering, bit of a coat in the LI area. Damp in the heart area, dry in St/Sp (is that possible). Last visit, the tongue was red w/red spots. His pulses are all over the place,very low, maybe choppy. Last visit were slippery. Other oddity: he has sporadic head hair loss, and spontaneous body hair growth. So gentle experts: anything you can share with us (beside the obvious be very very careful when needling abdominal points)? tx so much. karen Karen R. Adams, Lic Ac, Dipl Ac 25 - 27 Bank Row Greenfield, MA 01301 413-768-8333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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