[PCOM Alumni] Tax ID# on subforms: follow-up

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this is sick. you are not required to treat her if she is not paying you

for tx.

 

k

 

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Caryn White <obtm wrote:

 

> I just tried to ask Sam a question and this was my reply - see below

>

> so even if I would pony up the $158 - he may not know what he is talking

> about per Kath's response below. It is just getting harder and harder to

> practice and get paid for services.

>

> Does anyone know if you start with a patient and they do not pay for

> services, are we obligated to continue treating them?

>

>

>

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> sam

> obtm

> RE: question

> Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:36:43 -0800

>

>

> Yes, we are a separate business. We offer 2 portals of access for

> questions. We offer a yearly plan of membership for those insured through

> AAC of $158. It gives unlimited access by phone, fax or e mail for questions

> on coding, billing, medical necessity, collection, dealing with atty’s, WC

> claims, Managed care etc

>

>

>

> We also offer a fee for service which is by phone and is $25 for the first

> 10 minutes and $15 for each additional 10 minutes. (most always are under 10

> minutes by far)

>

>

>

> If you are interested or have questions about using the service or wish to

> utilize call me at the member number below. You can also access information

> about our service at our web site www.aacinfonetwork.com

>

>

>

> Sam

>

>

>

> *Samuel A. Collins*

>

> Seminar and Insurance Network Director

>

> H.J. Ross Company, Inc.,

>

> National Chiropractic Council, &

>

> American Acupuncture Council

>

> 714 648-0056 (members line)

>

> 714 571-1850 x 116

>

> 714 571 1866 (fax)

>

> web site www.hjrosscompany.com & www.aacinfonetwork.com

>

** Caryn White [obtm]

> *Sent:* February 11, 2010 10:21 AM

> *To:* sam

> *Subject:* RE: question

>

>

>

> My insurance is through AAC. I can look for all that info. Don't have it

> right in front of me. Is there a charge to ask a question?

>

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>

> sam

> obtm

> RE: question

> Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:15:18 -0800

>

> Are you are a member of the AAC Insurance Information Network? Please

> include your account number as I cannot always ascertain membership by name

> only

>

>

>

> *Samuel A. Collins*

>

> Seminar and Insurance Network Director

>

> H.J. Ross Company, Inc.,

>

> National Chiropractic Council, &

>

> American Acupuncture Council

>

> 714 648-0056 (members line)

>

> 714 571-1850 x 116

>

> 714 571 1866 (fax)

>

> web site www.hjrosscompany.com & www.aacinfonetwork.com

>

** Caryn White [obtm]

> *Sent:* February 11, 2010 10:07 AM

> *To:* sam

> *Subject:* question

>

>

>

> Dear Sam - I am an acupuncturist in San Diego, I had a patient come in

> last October with United Healthcare/PacifiCare. I called the insurance

> company to check coverage and was told she has 20 visits per year with a $15

> copay. I billed as usual and everything got bumped back saying she was not

> covered. This was an auto accident so I just figured they did not want to

> cover and to get the other party to pay as those darn insurance companies

> do. I called the patient to tell them their insurance did not cover and to

> please send a check for services. She had two treatments and one no show. I

> billed her for both treatments and the no show. Her lawyer called and told

> me if I wanted payment to take her to small claims. Is that legal? Do I have

> any other recourse? If she calls for more treatment do I have to treat her

> even if she does not pay her bill?

>

> Thank you in advance for your help.

>

> Caryn White

> Ocean Beach Acupuncture

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> Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:05:07 -0500

> acukath

> alumni

> CC: Chinese Traditional Medicine

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> [PCOM Alumni] Tax ID# on subforms: follow-up

>

> I have contacted the NCDOI (NC Dept of Insur) regarding the issue of the

> insur co (blue cross and united health care) requiring my tax id # on a

> subform when the insur co is cutting the check to the patient and is not

> paying me. The rep i spoke to said in NC there is no legally statute saying

> anything on this issue, so it is not a legal requirement (contrary to what

> sam collins of acu today advised) that the practitioner provide a tax id# on

> the subform.

>

> he advised me to fill out a complaint form on their website and send it to

> the NCDOI, who will pursue the matter with the insur co as to what their

> internal reason is for requiring it. blue cross has contacted me in writing

> asking for the tax id #, so i'm am filing a complaint against them.

>

> kath

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Abstain from all that is evil.

Perform all that is good.

Purify your thoughts.

This is the teaching of the Buddhas.

 

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath.blogspot.com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

 

Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

 

Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Flying-Dragon-Liniment-Eco-Friendly-Wild-Crafted/dp/B001OC\

1AZ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1254968032 & sr=8-1

 

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

 

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

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www.AcupunctureAsheville.com