Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Please correct my typo : This should be this, We have a form, a form of life with Yin-Yang. But this life will end when this heat, sound, and light in our bodies ends………. Other thing I see……………….. When 2 atoms are in together in one piece, life will end if its sound, heat and life is ended…………… AND  if these 2 atoms “ Yin “ are stopping to struggle against each other, NO LIFE will maintain. IF These 2 atoms, one goes its own way, keeps challenging each other, will create other life force, we continue to live on…………………. CORRECTION  :  AND  if these 2 atoms “ Yin “ are continuing to struggle against each other, LIFE will maintain. Thanks, nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Dear Nam Nguyen, here a lot of suggestions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_or_the_egg Thanks, ciao! Stefano Marcelli Darfo Boario Terme BS Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Nam Nguyen Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:21 AM Chinese Medicine Yin-Yang, chicken or egg came first? Dear Everyone, There was one time , one TCM doctor in my class asked a question “ Chicken came first or egg? “. This was a good question. Everyone kept discussing about it and had no solution. One day I came home and thought about it for 2 days. I came out with many assumptions and I thought I had an answer. Assume that eggs came first and only hatched in male’s forms, or only in female’ s forms. Then what will happen after several years, only roosters or only hens. Then , no more chickens !!!!!!!!!! So, eggs must not be the first. If there are millions of roosters, then there will be no eggs. Again, if there are millions of hens, there also will be no eggs. So, it must be a male and a female chickens at the same time, they came in together to bring eggs. There is no other way. And I think this is an answer, chickens " male and female " existed first, at the same time. There must be chickens before eggs. Chickens, first and must be 2 of them, male and female…………….. If someone has another answer, please help. This question raised up another question in my mind , “ Yin-Yang which one came first ? “ As we have learned Yin-Yang exist together, and always together. ………….. If someone has another answer, please help. ---------- As we have learned Yin-Yang exist together, and always in together. Yin-Yang together , it gives birth to life and rules our lives. If this is true, Yin-Yang is always together, then THERE IS NO DEATH. And if Yin-yang is always together, then THERE IS ALWAYS LIFE, and continues to produce life or lives without ceasing……………. We are now must covering the whole earth and other planets with lives........... I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS!!!!!! Because I see death “ Yin-Yang is always together is WRONG “. There are other discussions and arguments which one came first ? Only ideas and no explanation. At first , I said Yang came in being first, the record said, Yang is the creation, the movement, and is the living thing. It creates and destroys…………… Yin is the nourishment, the reservation, nurturing. So, Yang must be the first. Everything is seen by the light “Yang “, if there is no light nothing can be seen, NOTHING would count. So the light is the first being. I presented to others, but there were so many objections that Yin-Yang must be together, no other way. I went home and thought about this for many days and I visualized that Yin came in being first !!!!!!!!!!!! I asked myself again and again, “ If the light was first, then Yin came in second. That made sense! But where was the light coming from ? It must came from a point , a focus point, an existing point, and that point must be Yin. “... NOTE : LIGHT IS ALSO LIFE !!! I called it. And my answer is now Yin was the first……….. No more change ! If someone may think of an opposite, please give us an idea…………….. WHY DO I THINK THIS IS A BIG IDEA ? Because it " Yin-Yang " is a source of life, and a source of change. What else is more important than this ??? If this is true, we may have some intelligent minds who will give us many definite answers about life and death, and ways of treating a disease. Let’s look at life. Do we know how we became into life? And when we die ? What happen to Yin-Yang when we die? In our universe, there are stars, I called them “ yin “. These yin " stars " have always existed, in separation, in space, in galaxy, in milky ways. They have always been in space, so they existed before Yang in darkness. When these “ 2 stars or Yin “ came together, they banged into each other creating a sound “ poop ! “ . This sound was alive , I called it Yang. Its sounds travels in waves " motion, life " . Before sound travels it creates heat, light from friction, Yang in life. A friction created heat “ Yang “, and light created “ Yang “. The sound emitted waves “ Yang , in movement “, on and on……. As I imagine this, as 2 atoms in space , floating and joining together. Before they are joined, they cannot be seen “ Yin “, no life created and no form…………. When 2 atoms are joining together, as H20, water, there is a form, and life. During there bonding -joining together, they create waves, sounds, heat, light -as described above- and life form existed. The Yang or life created depending on how fast , how big, and how strong they impacted? How far and fast sound will travel; how strong and how long light will last; and how warm the heat will remain , all are depend upon the impact, how big , how fast and how long they “ 2 stars “ will stay together… Bigger, stronger and faster impact created stronger, longer life………… After a while, this heat cools down, sound disperses and vanishes, light , and life will cease. We have a form, a form of life with Yin-Yang. But this life will end when this heat, sound, and light in our bodies ends………. Other thing I see……………….. When 2 atoms are in together in one piece, life will end if its sound, heat and life is ended…………… AND if these 2 atoms “ Yin “ are not stopping to struggle against each other, NO LIFE will maintain. IF These 2 atoms, one goes its own way, keeps challenging each other, will create other life force, we continue to live on…………………. But if these 2 stop struggling, or if heat, waves, sound, and light also stop, we will have no life. Our bodies are disintegrating into smaller and smaller into units, cells , then into atoms………. We will go back into atoms “ Yin form, in separation “ as in the beginning…… Is this true , that before we came into being, we were in Yin “ invisible forms “. Came into life “ Yang form, visible form - Yin-Yang “, and then return to its source when we die…………… Matter cannot be created , nor destroyed. We are in forms and disperse in invisible forms. IF THE ABOVE IS TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE MAY HAVE A SOLUTION IN TREATING OUR PATIENTS MORE EFFECTIVELY……. Because we know where life begins and when life is ended. IS THIS YIN-YANG THEORY HELPING US in treating our patients??????? Please Help !!! Thanks for joining me, Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I would disagree and feel that a single-celled egg came first, as this is the progression of evolution from simple, single celled to multi-celled organisms. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine dr_namnguyen58 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:21:03 -0800 Yin-Yang, chicken or egg came first? Dear Everyone, There was one time , one TCM doctor in my class asked a question “ Chicken came first or egg? “. This was a good question. Everyone kept discussing about it and had no solution. One day I came home and thought about it for 2 days. I came out with many assumptions and I thought I had an answer. Assume that eggs came first and only hatched in male’s forms, or only in female’ s forms. Then what will happen after several years, only roosters or only hens. Then , no more chickens !!!!!!!!!! So, eggs must not be the first. If there are millions of roosters, then there will be no eggs. Again, if there are millions of hens, there also will be no eggs. So, it must be a male and a female chickens at the same time, they came in together to bring eggs. There is no other way. And I think this is an answer, chickens " male and female " existed first, at the same time. There must be chickens before eggs. Chickens, first and must be 2 of them, male and female…………….. If someone has another answer, please help. This question raised up another question in my mind , “ Yin-Yang which one came first ? “ As we have learned Yin-Yang exist together, and always together. ………….. If someone has another answer, please help. ---------- As we have learned Yin-Yang exist together, and always in together. Yin-Yang together , it gives birth to life and rules our lives. If this is true, Yin-Yang is always together, then THERE IS NO DEATH. And if Yin-yang is always together, then THERE IS ALWAYS LIFE, and continues to produce life or lives without ceasing……………. We are now must covering the whole earth and other planets with lives........... I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS!!!!!! Because I see death “ Yin-Yang is always together is WRONG “. There are other discussions and arguments which one came first ? Only ideas and no explanation. At first , I said Yang came in being first, the record said, Yang is the creation, the movement, and is the living thing. It creates and destroys…………… Yin is the nourishment, the reservation, nurturing. So, Yang must be the first. Everything is seen by the light “Yang “, if there is no light nothing can be seen, NOTHING would count. So the light is the first being. I presented to others, but there were so many objections that Yin-Yang must be together, no other way. I went home and thought about this for many days and I visualized that Yin came in being first !!!!!!!!!!!! I asked myself again and again, “ If the light was first, then Yin came in second. That made sense! But where was the light coming from ? It must came from a point , a focus point, an existing point, and that point must be Yin. “... NOTE : LIGHT IS ALSO LIFE !!! I called it. And my answer is now Yin was the first……….. No more change ! If someone may think of an opposite, please give us an idea…………….. WHY DO I THINK THIS IS A BIG IDEA ? Because it " Yin-Yang " is a source of life, and a source of change. What else is more important than this ??? If this is true, we may have some intelligent minds who will give us many definite answers about life and death, and ways of treating a disease. Let’s look at life. Do we know how we became into life? And when we die ? What happen to Yin-Yang when we die? In our universe, there are stars, I called them “ yin “. These yin " stars " have always existed, in separation, in space, in galaxy, in milky ways. They have always been in space, so they existed before Yang in darkness. When these “ 2 stars or Yin “ came together, they banged into each other creating a sound “ poop ! “ . This sound was alive , I called it Yang. Its sounds travels in waves " motion, life " . Before sound travels it creates heat, light from friction, Yang in life. A friction created heat “ Yang “, and light created “ Yang “. The sound emitted waves “ Yang , in movement “, on and on……. As I imagine this, as 2 atoms in space , floating and joining together. Before they are joined, they cannot be seen “ Yin “, no life created and no form…………. When 2 atoms are joining together, as H20, water, there is a form, and life. During there bonding -joining together, they create waves, sounds, heat, light -as described above- and life form existed. The Yang or life created depending on how fast , how big, and how strong they impacted? How far and fast sound will travel; how strong and how long light will last; and how warm the heat will remain , all are depend upon the impact, how big , how fast and how long they “ 2 stars “ will stay together… Bigger, stronger and faster impact created stronger, longer life………… After a while, this heat cools down, sound disperses and vanishes, light , and life will cease. We have a form, a form of life with Yin-Yang. But this life will end when this heat, sound, and light in our bodies ends………. Other thing I see……………….. When 2 atoms are in together in one piece, life will end if its sound, heat and life is ended…………… AND if these 2 atoms “ Yin “ are not stopping to struggle against each other, NO LIFE will maintain. IF These 2 atoms, one goes its own way, keeps challenging each other, will create other life force, we continue to live on…………………. But if these 2 stop struggling, or if heat, waves, sound, and light also stop, we will have no life. Our bodies are disintegrating into smaller and smaller into units, cells , then into atoms………. We will go back into atoms “ Yin form, in separation “ as in the beginning…… Is this true , that before we came into being, we were in Yin “ invisible forms “. Came into life “ Yang form, visible form - Yin-Yang “, and then return to its source when we die…………… Matter cannot be created , nor destroyed. We are in forms and disperse in invisible forms. IF THE ABOVE IS TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE MAY HAVE A SOLUTION IN TREATING OUR PATIENTS MORE EFFECTIVELY……. Because we know where life begins and when life is ended. IS THIS YIN-YANG THEORY HELPING US in treating our patients??????? Please Help !!! Thanks for joining me, Nam Nguyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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