Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Mark, one of my teachers called the pattern for people who can't stop talking " machine gun mouth " . (HT fire).. HT 8 treatment... it's like the opposite of HT 5 used for aphasia. K On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:51 PM, zedbowls <zaranski wrote: > > > Hard to be secific without in-depth understanding of your statistics (like > total treatments per week, number of " new " exam/treatments per week), BUT > decide what YOU want in YOUR practice and make it so. > > Simply change your behavior and change what is expected with your new > patients and your practice will change. > > We are presently experiencing about 10 new patients per week, and on > average patients take about 20 treatments with us (so for every one and out > there is someone who takes about 39 treatments). We see about 50% turnover > in six months as far as regular treatment population. We can impliment new > policies pretty quickly and so we are not afraid of change, there is always > a steady stream of new people due to our success with those we treat > (resulting in lots of referrals). > > Those returning after completing their treatment plan for regular seasonal > or semiannual maintenance treatments do require more interaction (these are > scheduled with a re-eval or mini re-eval BEFORE their treatment where most > of the talk occurs). > > Needle quickly and get out of the room. Let the needles do their work. > Patients are typically much less blathering after treatment than before, so > there is less talk during post-needles cupping, gua sha, whatever. > > Heart 8 works wonders for the heart-heat shen disturbed who simply cannot > stop speaking. Get it in early it works really quickly. > > Mark Z > www.ewacupuncture.com > > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > " heylaurag " <heylaurag wrote: > > > > Yes--that's been my experience as well. And I've experienced that > patients suddenly seem to not enjoy the process as much. So I keep going > back to the fact that I do have the gift of gab, so I may as well use it. I > think its more realistic for me to figure out techniques to make it less > tiring to me than to figure out a way to create silence while I needle them. > Also, I've noticed that some patients feel like their momma has disciplined > them when I say anything about being quiet during the treatment--no matter > how gentle I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > lee tritt <ladylee0999@> wrote: > > > > > > OK, I'm reading this thread and thinking you all have good points. I > usually do lots of small talk while needling. (Talking about children, > weather, new construction, etc....) > > > > > > This morning, I tried the quiet, meditative method and found it to be > very awkward and more tiring than talking. > > > > > > I guess we all need to work as we are comfortable. The goal is to help > the patient. Part of this is for the patient to be relaxed in order for them > to receive the best treatment results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Hugo Ramiro <subincor@> > > > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 11:40:42 PM > > > Re: Talking during treatments > > > > > > > > > Hi Laura, because I know so little about you and your situation, I must > generalise. Most of my postings are very general. > > > > > > I know what you mean about conversation while needling. The point I am > kind of making though is like this - people, when speaking, are expressing. > It's important. Now we may express too much, or not enough, but the > requirement for expression remains. The trick is to find the qi that is > expressing when the patient " small talks " . In my experience, people do not > talk without reason, there is always some good reason. One strategy I use > with the table talk is to just go along with everything that they say. Agree > with it all. At some point, something will catch my attention, and the > communication that results form that will either be illuminating to me as a > person in arelationship, or illuminating to me clinically. People will often > dance around a point, and when you handle the dance well, they will shoot > their straight shot. Hopefully you're there to catch it, if you know what I > mean. > > > > > > I am not sure a script for convo is a good idea - it may kill the > energy further. Some scripted boundaries, though, might be in order. For > example, a list of polite commands that can be used when you really need to > stop someone. > > > > > > My most useful point, which I rely on myself, is good quality sleep and > internal cultivation, daily. > > > > > > Thanks Laura! > > > Hugo > > > (p.s. I stand behind my " disrespect " towards western psychology ) > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Hugo Ramiro > > > http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com > > > http://www.middlemedicine.org > > > > > > ._,___ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Talking while needling is a good way to lose your focus. Talking while removing needles is a good way to stick yourself with a needle. - Bill Schoenbart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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