Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Hi Mark - Just curious how you recycle the guide tubes - where I live, plastic is recycled according to what " number " it is. Do you know the numbers of the guide tubes? Or is there some other way to recycle the tubes? Thanks - Adam Chinese Medicine , " zedbowls " <zaranski wrote: > > hey Anne, > > What do you like about serins? They spend the most on advertizing, certainly that gets passed along to buyers. Do you ever see Px's with sensitivity to the silicone coating on their needles? > > Do you tube needle or free needle? Do you recycle the tubes? > > We inserted over 120,000 needles in 2009; with DBC spring tens thats still >12k insertion tubes that we recycled! The only thing that tube does for us is provide rigidity for the package. We pull that tubeand pocket it when we open the pack. DBCs are uncoated stainless, easily as smooth as the serins due to polishing. Nice and stiff for their gauge so your qi is easily tranfered into penetration rather than bending needles and hurting Pxs. SOOO much less packaging per 1000 needles. > > Mark Z > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Adam, I called Lhasa OMS about a year ago and recall that Seirin tubes are recyclable... # 5 polypropylene is what I remember, but I could be wrong. The problem with # 5 is that you need a whole bunch of it for recycling, because it can't be mixed with #1, 2, 3, or 4. I also called up other companies and they could not determine if the guide tubes were recyclable or not. That's why I think the best way to help unload the landfill is to use less guide tubes (one in 5 or 10 packs) or do free-handed needling. K On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Adam Schreiber <schreib wrote: > > > Hi Mark - > Just curious how you recycle the guide tubes - where I live, plastic is > recycled according to what " number " it is. Do you know the numbers of the > guide tubes? Or is there some other way to recycle the tubes? > > Thanks - > Adam > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > " zedbowls " <zaranski wrote: > > > > hey Anne, > > > > What do you like about serins? They spend the most on advertizing, > certainly that gets passed along to buyers. Do you ever see Px's with > sensitivity to the silicone coating on their needles? > > > > Do you tube needle or free needle? Do you recycle the tubes? > > > > We inserted over 120,000 needles in 2009; with DBC spring tens thats > still >12k insertion tubes that we recycled! The only thing that tube does > for us is provide rigidity for the package. We pull that tubeand pocket it > when we open the pack. DBCs are uncoated stainless, easily as smooth as the > serins due to polishing. Nice and stiff for their gauge so your qi is easily > tranfered into penetration rather than bending needles and hurting Pxs. SOOO > much less packaging per 1000 needles. > > > > Mark Z > > > > > -- "" www.tcmreview.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 thought -- when will needle company start doing biodegradable guidetubes? On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM, <johnkokko wrote: > Adam, I called Lhasa OMS about a year ago > and recall that Seirin tubes are recyclable... # 5 polypropylene is what I > remember, but I could be wrong. > The problem with # 5 is that you need a whole bunch of it for recycling, > because it can't be mixed with > #1, 2, 3, or 4. > I also called up other companies and they could not determine if the guide > tubes were recyclable or not. > > That's why I think the best way to help unload the landfill is to use less > guide tubes (one in 5 or 10 packs) > or do free-handed needling. > > K > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Here plastics are collected combined (comingled) and sorted at a central facility using spectrophotometry. I visited the facility. The large items are removed first (milk jugs, etc) and sorted separately. The smaller items go thru a machine similar to what sorts dry beans (those are optical/visible spectrum, this is infrared). Mark Z Chinese Medicine , " Adam Schreiber " <schreib wrote: > > Hi Mark - > Just curious how you recycle the guide tubes - where I live, plastic is recycled according to what " number " it is. Do you know the numbers of the guide tubes? Or is there some other way to recycle the tubes? > > Thanks - > Adam > > Chinese Medicine , " zedbowls " <zaranski@> wrote: > > > > hey Anne, > > > > What do you like about serins? They spend the most on advertizing, certainly that gets passed along to buyers. Do you ever see Px's with sensitivity to the silicone coating on their needles? > > > > Do you tube needle or free needle? Do you recycle the tubes? > > > > We inserted over 120,000 needles in 2009; with DBC spring tens thats still >12k insertion tubes that we recycled! The only thing that tube does for us is provide rigidity for the package. We pull that tubeand pocket it when we open the pack. DBCs are uncoated stainless, easily as smooth as the serins due to polishing. Nice and stiff for their gauge so your qi is easily tranfered into penetration rather than bending needles and hurting Pxs. SOOO much less packaging per 1000 needles. > > > > Mark Z > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 This is a great idea and very doable. I was pleasantly surprised to find that a few denatal companies are making 100% biodegradable dental floss picks from plant starches. This could absolutely be done with guide tubes. Chinese Medicine , " Edith Chan, L.Ac. " <chineseherbs wrote: > > thought -- when will needle company start doing biodegradable guidetubes? > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM, <johnkokko wrote: > > > Adam, I called Lhasa OMS about a year ago > > and recall that Seirin tubes are recyclable... # 5 polypropylene is what I > > remember, but I could be wrong. > > The problem with # 5 is that you need a whole bunch of it for recycling, > > because it can't be mixed with > > #1, 2, 3, or 4. > > I also called up other companies and they could not determine if the guide > > tubes were recyclable or not. > > > > That's why I think the best way to help unload the landfill is to use less > > guide tubes (one in 5 or 10 packs) > > or do free-handed needling. > > > > K > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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