Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Hi Kokko, From my experience, is seems to be neutral, perhaps very slightly cooling. Chana (my wife), is very sensitve to temperature changes, and though she does better in cool weather, her hands tend to get icy cold very easily. Yet the spasms and tremors make them hot and sweaty. Of all the Qi boosting herbs, she does best with Tai Zi Shen.  For years, she was given Xi Yang Shen, and it neither helped moisten, nor strengthen.  Rather, her hands got colder easier. Bai Zhu really dried her out and made her more irritable.  Dong Shen seemed to increase her " phlegm " which as we have spoken about in the past, is not really phlegm, but rather congested, thick sputem which gets caught in her throat and which, when it's really bad, drools out.  I had been using Huang Qi along with Tai Zi Shen, but read my latest post to Sharon! Oh, I forgot to add in my letter to Sharon, that I did actually add Ci Wu Jia, which in addition to boosting Qi also calms the Shen, and I really like the combination of Tai Zi Shen, Huang Jing and Ci Wu Jia, so far!    ________________________________ <johnkokko Chinese Medicine Fri, April 16, 2010 4:05:17 AM Re: Re: Tonification with exterior patterns  Yehudah, You have written that you use Tai zi shen a lot for your wife's condition in the past. Do you see this herb as more warming or cooling and how do you differentiate its indication versus Dang shen, Ren shen or Xi yang shen? K On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:50 AM, sharon weizenbaum <sweiz wrote: > > > Yehudah asks: 1. According to what you present in the name of Dr. Huang > Huang, does that mean that Huang Qi would be contraindicated in the presence > of Bai Shao and Gan Cao, and that a patient with muscular hypertonicity > should never be given Huang Qi even though they may also be Qi vacuous? > > Sharon: Yikes! I don't means to present " in the name of Dr. Huang Huang " !! > To be clear, I only write what I understand and work with and this has been > influenced by Dr. Huang Huang. Other influences and even misunderstandings > might color how I work and what I express so I would not want to give any > impression that I am speaking for Dr. Huang Huang. > > That said....There are classic formulas (Huang Qi Gui Zhi Wu Wu Tang, Huang > Qi Jian Zhong Tang etc.) that contain both Huang Qi, Gui Zhi and Bai Shao > so, no, it is not contraindicated to combine these by me or by Dr. Huang > Huang. Also, clinically, a person can have tight muscles and loose skin. > But, more importantly, a person does not necessarily need to have a lax > exterior to use Huang Qi. For me, this would be more of a requirement if the > formula is led by Huang Qi. For example, in a formula like Shi Quan Da Bu > Tang, I see Huang Qi and being used to help blood production in combination > with Dang Gui as the main reason it is used here. The person I would use > this for would not necessarily have a lax exterior. If they did, I would > probably use more Huang Qi and probably use a different formula strategy. > > Yehuda asks: 2. You mention that he describes herbs such as Ren Shen, Xi > Yang Shen, and Gan Cao, as treating constitutional types who are skinny and > dry. How does he differentiate the usage of Hong Shen, Ren Shen, Dang Shen, > Xi Yang Shen and Tai Zi Shen other then by temperature? > > Sharon: As for Ren Shen, Xi Yang Shen, Tai Zi Shen and Dang Shen and how > they are differentiated by Huang Huang, I don't know. Gan Cao and Hong Shen > are quite different from these those. > > I don't want to go into great detail here as to how I see these herbs or > what I've learned from Dr. Huang Huang but I think it may be important to > say that, for any herb, the various functions and characteristics of it are > brought out by how it is combined with other herbs in formula. So, for > example, Dr. Huang Huang teaches that Gan Cao acts in its ability to clear > toxic heat for mouth or other mucous membrane sores (in skinny weak people) > when it is used in Gan Cao Xie Xin Tang. (This is part of what makes it a > great formula to use for weak patients who are getting mouth sores as they > undergo chemo or radiation). When Gan Cao is used with Bai Shao in larger > doses, it stops pain from spasms (in patients with tight musculature) Gan > Cao and Jie Geng are combined in lots of cough formulas and they help > prevent lung abscess and sooth sore throats. Of course we know that Gan Cao > in small doses is used to harmonize formulas and when it is combined with Fu > Zi it helps to detoxify the Fu Zi toxin...etc. etc. > > This is just using the example of Gan Cao. Of course the same is true of > Huang Qi....When it is combined in large doses with Tao Hong Si Wu Tang and > Di Long - numbness. Combined with Fang Ji - water swelling. etc. > > Best > > Sharon > > Sharon Weizenbaum > 86 Henry Street > Amherst, MA 01002 > www.whitepinehealin garts.com > Topics in Blog > sweiz <sweiz%40rcn. com> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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