Advantages of Renewing NCCAOM Dipl. Ac. Status

[Guest guest]

Some renew some don't. I think most states you don't need it beyond receiving

your state license. So I am wondering what advantages there are for renewing it?

Will it become more important in the future? Also some " medical acupuncturists "

use the Dipl. Ac. status so it doesn't seem so prestigious anymore.

 

Any opinions on this? Thank you,

Elie

[Guest guest]

Michael

 

I don't include myself in the WE when discussing the NCCAOM.

I want no part of THEM.

In all the other states that don't unlawfully require it one apparently has

a choice to stand up ethically or just maintain the status quo.

And in those 15 or so states that do apparently require it......there is an

opportunity to fight it..... but first licensees have to band together and

develop or have the idea that it might actually be unlawful and

monopolistic........ and then DO SOMETHING about it. Like either go to their

legislators and complain with suggestion of change or sue for change.

 

Richard

 

 

In a message dated 4/28/2010 12:42:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

naturaldoc1 writes:

 

 

It has struck me as odd that for license renewal we require a continued

payment to the testing agency. I am glad that some states have gotten rid of

this requirement. I would find equally offensive if my chiro board sold

membership and then my state required payment to them for renewal. As it

stands, I paid for each Board part one time and then never again. They were

pricey but once completed, done.

...................

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Having graduated from a 5 Element School (with some Zang Fu and Patterns

classes), it took me hours upon hours to prepare for that exam.  I passed it

the first time, and that is not always true coming out of 5 Element.  So, it

was a labor of time and money.  And yes, I learned something.  School provides

the foundation.  Then, I think what one studies " after school " make the

difference in the practitioner.

 

 

 

All that said, I wouldn't think twice about renewing that certification.  I am

in Maryland, which only requires graduation from an accredited school.  That

could change, and others would be grandfathered.  Personally, I respect the

well roundedness of people who take the exam in my state.  I know some have

let that certification lapse due to the expense of it.  I personally think that

is crazy.  There are states that do require it - neighboring states such as VA

and DC around me. 

 

 

 

I know a 30-yr practittioner here in Maryland who let his CA licensure expire. 

Again, crazy.  I think he knows that now.

 

 

 

I would not want to take that exam again (it was an academic nightmare, but that

is another story).  A TCM practitioner in my area, who graduated from, and

taught at, the New England School said he wasn't sure if he could pass it,

without boning up. If it gives you versatility in where you can practice, then

it is worth it.  I do look for the Dipl.Ac. title for practitoners in my area.

 

 

 

I always value " time " over " money " , always have - it is all we really have. 

So, the thought of going through that again - there is no contest - pay the

certification fee.

 

 

 

Elie, if you are still on the fence, why don't you look up states that require

it.  I would think the trend would be for more states to require it.

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com

 

-

" elieg1969 " <pokerboy729

" Traditional "

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:26:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 Advantages of Renewing NCCAOM Dipl. Ac. Status

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some renew some don't. I think most states you don't need it beyond receiving

your state license. So I am wondering what advantages there are for renewing it?

Will it become more important in the future? Also some " medical acupuncturists "

use the Dipl. Ac. status so it doesn't seem so prestigious anymore.

 

Any opinions on this? Thank you,

Elie

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It has struck me as odd that for license renewal we require a continued payment

to the testing agency. I am glad that some states have gotten rid of this

requirement. I would find equally offensive if my chiro board sold membership

and then my state required payment to them for renewal. As it stands, I paid

for each Board part one time and then never again. They were pricey but once

completed, done.

 

This is one more great example of where the profession has chosen to create our

own way to doing things, that simply does not work well. The NCCAOM modules are

very pricey and constant membership makes license renewal more costly. It would

be great if they administered an exam and then simply acknowledged you with a

certificate, no more ongoing membership in a club.

 

The Dipl Ac is also being used by one group out of AZ that teaches abbreviated

courses on acupuncture for others. It has become a meaningless designation.

Confusion over designations.

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

pokerboy729

Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:26:47 +0000

Advantages of Renewing NCCAOM Dipl. Ac. Status

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some renew some don't. I think most states you don't need it beyond

receiving your state license. So I am wondering what advantages there are for

renewing it? Will it become more important in the future? Also some " medical

acupuncturists " use the Dipl. Ac. status so it doesn't seem so prestigious

anymore.

 

 

 

Any opinions on this? Thank you,

 

Elie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

R,

 

I meant no offense but, in all actuality, the we means all of us in this

profession. Until you decide to leave us, you are part of the we. There is no

opt out clause in this, sorry.

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

acudoc11

Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:49:15 -0400

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Michael

 

 

 

I don't include myself in the WE when discussing the NCCAOM.

 

I want no part of THEM.

 

In all the other states that don't unlawfully require it one apparently has

 

a choice to stand up ethically or just maintain the status quo.

 

And in those 15 or so states that do apparently require it......there is an

 

opportunity to fight it..... but first licensees have to band together and

 

develop or have the idea that it might actually be unlawful and

 

monopolistic........ and then DO SOMETHING about it. Like either go to their

 

legislators and complain with suggestion of change or sue for change.

 

 

 

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 4/28/2010 12:42:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

 

naturaldoc1 writes:

 

 

 

It has struck me as odd that for license renewal we require a continued

 

payment to the testing agency. I am glad that some states have gotten rid of

 

this requirement. I would find equally offensive if my chiro board sold

 

membership and then my state required payment to them for renewal. As it

 

stands, I paid for each Board part one time and then never again. They were

 

pricey but once completed, done.

 

...................

 

 

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elie, have these " medical acupuncturists " using the Dipl. Ac. designation

actually taken and passed the exams? Or are they guilty of some degree of

misrepresentation and subject to (I'm assuming) some degree of legal action?

 

-Everett

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" elieg1969 " <pokerboy729

Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:26:47

<Chinese Medicine >

Advantages of Renewing NCCAOM Dipl. Ac. Status

 

Some renew some don't. I think most states you don't need it beyond receiving

your state license. So I am wondering what advantages there are for renewing it?

Will it become more important in the future? Also some " medical acupuncturists "

use the Dipl. Ac. status so it doesn't seem so prestigious anymore.

 

Any opinions on this? Thank you,

Elie

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Some states require it. If you have not renewed it for a specified

amount of time (it might be 10 years) they will not issue your scores.

That is what a LAc who moved to Washington state found out when he

moved after not paying dues for 10 years, though he was practicing and

getting CEUs. The NCCAOM strategy is for as many states to require it

as possible, they advocate for that very requirement to show that the

profession has standards.

[Guest guest]

Hi Everett,

 

They are taking their exams but it's not from the NCCAOM. They are receiving

their board certification Dipl. Ac. status from the International Academy of

Medical Acupuncture (Dr. Amaro)

After 305 hours they receive " Fellowship " FIAMA and if they go to 425 hours they

get their Dip. Ac.

Elie

 

Chinese Medicine , pine.village.tcm wrote:

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> Elie, have these " medical acupuncturists " using the Dipl. Ac. designation

actually taken and passed the exams? Or are they guilty of some degree of

misrepresentation and subject to (I'm assuming) some degree of legal action?

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> -Everett

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

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> " elieg1969 " <pokerboy729

> Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:26:47

> <Chinese Medicine >

> Advantages of Renewing NCCAOM Dipl. Ac. Status

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> Some renew some don't. I think most states you don't need it beyond receiving

your state license. So I am wondering what advantages there are for renewing it?

Will it become more important in the future? Also some " medical acupuncturists "

use the Dipl. Ac. status so it doesn't seem so prestigious anymore.

>

> Any opinions on this? Thank you,

> Elie

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