Guest guest Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I would greatly appreciate if the statements Don made about insurance coverage below could be expanded upon. What is the process to get insurance to always pay? I really wish that this was not a " secret " and we could all take advantage of it. Julie > I specialize and advertize for pain and > neuropathy because insurance will ALWAYS reimburse me for pain and > neuropathy. That is another secret of mine. Insurance reimbursement. > Any patient with insurance (except medicare) is my prime candidate and > they ALL pay me. That's something I shared with Jack and he felt that > what I was doing would be illegal. I even brought my lawyer with me to > meet him because I thought the schools should be teaching this. He wasn't > interested. > > Since then I have hired a number of attorneys to check on what I am doing > and I've also cleared this with the medical and chiropractic boards. > It's very legal, although no one else is doing it. Too bad for the > profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I don't see why I should share this at this time. It has costed my well of $300,000 of my own money to find out how to do this legally and I am enjoying the fruits of my labor. I attempted to share this with the president of PCOM and he wasn't interested. I'm not interested in sharing at this time unless people want to join me in my business ventures. I will share with these AOM practitioners freely and withholding nothing. Once I share with someone, my proprietary knowledge is no longer mine and others will claim it as their own. This may appear stingy and self-centered, but this is business; my business. Perhaps at another time I will share. Sincerely, Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. Chinese Medicine julie Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:54:57 +0000 Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? I would greatly appreciate if the statements Don made about insurance coverage below could be expanded upon. What is the process to get insurance to always pay? I really wish that this was not a " secret " and we could all take advantage of it. Julie > I specialize and advertize for pain and > neuropathy because insurance will ALWAYS reimburse me for pain and > neuropathy. That is another secret of mine. Insurance reimbursement. > Any patient with insurance (except medicare) is my prime candidate and > they ALL pay me. That's something I shared with Jack and he felt that > what I was doing would be illegal. I even brought my lawyer with me to > meet him because I thought the schools should be teaching this. He wasn't > interested. > > Since then I have hired a number of attorneys to check on what I am doing > and I've also cleared this with the medical and chiropractic boards. > It's very legal, although no one else is doing it. Too bad for the > profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 My understanding of Don's arrangement is that he works with physicians and the MD can bill for PT and then assign the treatment to Don who does Scenar or whatever and bills it as " Attended electric stimulation. " I don't think Don's system works unless you want to go into partnership with an MD, and I also don't think it works in a heavily HMO dominated market. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - " Donald Snow " <don83407 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Friday, April 30, 2010 9:25 AM RE: Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? > > I don't see why I should share this at this time. It has costed my well > of $300,000 of my own money to find out how to do this legally and I am > enjoying the fruits of my labor. I attempted to share this with the > president of PCOM and he wasn't interested. I'm not interested in sharing > at this time unless people want to join me in my business ventures. I > will share with these AOM practitioners freely and withholding nothing. > Once I share with someone, my proprietary knowledge is no longer mine and > others will claim it as their own. This may appear stingy and > self-centered, but this is business; my business. > > > > Perhaps at another time I will share. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. > > > > Chinese Medicine > julie > Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:54:57 +0000 > Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? > > > > > > I would greatly appreciate if the statements Don made about insurance > coverage below could be expanded upon. What is the process to get > insurance to always pay? I really wish that this was not a " secret " and we > could all take advantage of it. > > Julie > >> I specialize and advertize for pain and >> neuropathy because insurance will ALWAYS reimburse me for pain and >> neuropathy. That is another secret of mine. Insurance reimbursement. >> Any patient with insurance (except medicare) is my prime candidate and >> they ALL pay me. That's something I shared with Jack and he felt that >> what I was doing would be illegal. I even brought my lawyer with me to >> meet him because I thought the schools should be teaching this. He wasn't >> interested. >> > >> Since then I have hired a number of attorneys to check on what I am doing >> and I've also cleared this with the medical and chiropractic boards. >> It's very legal, although no one else is doing it. Too bad for the >> profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 You do not need an MD. I am no longer billing through MDs. Good try. Don Snow Chinese Medicine angelapfa Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:00:38 -0700 Re: Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? My understanding of Don's arrangement is that he works with physicians and the MD can bill for PT and then assign the treatment to Don who does Scenar or whatever and bills it as " Attended electric stimulation. " I don't think Don's system works unless you want to go into partnership with an MD, and I also don't think it works in a heavily HMO dominated market. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - " Donald Snow " <don83407 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Friday, April 30, 2010 9:25 AM RE: Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? > > I don't see why I should share this at this time. It has costed my well > of $300,000 of my own money to find out how to do this legally and I am > enjoying the fruits of my labor. I attempted to share this with the > president of PCOM and he wasn't interested. I'm not interested in sharing > at this time unless people want to join me in my business ventures. I > will share with these AOM practitioners freely and withholding nothing. > Once I share with someone, my proprietary knowledge is no longer mine and > others will claim it as their own. This may appear stingy and > self-centered, but this is business; my business. > > > > Perhaps at another time I will share. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. > > > > Chinese Medicine > julie > Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:54:57 +0000 > Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? > > > > > > I would greatly appreciate if the statements Don made about insurance > coverage below could be expanded upon. What is the process to get > insurance to always pay? I really wish that this was not a " secret " and we > could all take advantage of it. > > Julie > >> I specialize and advertize for pain and >> neuropathy because insurance will ALWAYS reimburse me for pain and >> neuropathy. That is another secret of mine. Insurance reimbursement. >> Any patient with insurance (except medicare) is my prime candidate and >> they ALL pay me. That's something I shared with Jack and he felt that >> what I was doing would be illegal. I even brought my lawyer with me to >> meet him because I thought the schools should be teaching this. He wasn't >> interested. >> > >> Since then I have hired a number of attorneys to check on what I am doing >> and I've also cleared this with the medical and chiropractic boards. >> It's very legal, although no one else is doing it. Too bad for the >> profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 P.S. Many M.D.s will actually steel from you. It has happened to me twice. Don Chinese Medicine angelapfa Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:00:38 -0700 Re: Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? My understanding of Don's arrangement is that he works with physicians and the MD can bill for PT and then assign the treatment to Don who does Scenar or whatever and bills it as " Attended electric stimulation. " I don't think Don's system works unless you want to go into partnership with an MD, and I also don't think it works in a heavily HMO dominated market. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - " Donald Snow " <don83407 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Friday, April 30, 2010 9:25 AM RE: Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? > > I don't see why I should share this at this time. It has costed my well > of $300,000 of my own money to find out how to do this legally and I am > enjoying the fruits of my labor. I attempted to share this with the > president of PCOM and he wasn't interested. I'm not interested in sharing > at this time unless people want to join me in my business ventures. I > will share with these AOM practitioners freely and withholding nothing. > Once I share with someone, my proprietary knowledge is no longer mine and > others will claim it as their own. This may appear stingy and > self-centered, but this is business; my business. > > > > Perhaps at another time I will share. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, L.Ac. > > > > Chinese Medicine > julie > Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:54:57 +0000 > Insurance Coverage for Pain and Neuropathy? > > > > > > I would greatly appreciate if the statements Don made about insurance > coverage below could be expanded upon. What is the process to get > insurance to always pay? I really wish that this was not a " secret " and we > could all take advantage of it. > > Julie > >> I specialize and advertize for pain and >> neuropathy because insurance will ALWAYS reimburse me for pain and >> neuropathy. That is another secret of mine. Insurance reimbursement. >> Any patient with insurance (except medicare) is my prime candidate and >> they ALL pay me. That's something I shared with Jack and he felt that >> what I was doing would be illegal. I even brought my lawyer with me to >> meet him because I thought the schools should be teaching this. He wasn't >> interested. >> > >> Since then I have hired a number of attorneys to check on what I am doing >> and I've also cleared this with the medical and chiropractic boards. >> It's very legal, although no one else is doing it. Too bad for the >> profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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