Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Hi Mary, while I was an intern at Yo San I had a 76 year old male with peropheral neuropathy in both feet esp in the left. After only 2 treatments, and much to my surprise, with no herbs beacuse he was already in so many different drugs, he was walking like he didn't in years. I used KD 1, Sp 3, ST 36, LI 10 bilateral. Then Ba feng on L foot and Ba Xie on R hand. It was a lot of needles but it really worked. Every time he came I did a similar protocol. Sincerely, Ferran >lyeric100 > > > Peripheral Neuropathy >Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:28 EDT > >Dear Group > >I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had >much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's >balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either. >Any help or >hints would be greatly appreciated. > >Regards, > Mary > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Mary, You neglected to mention the etiology of these. You might want to consider a nerve conduction test to rule our polyneuropathy as in diabetes. Are any of these possibly diabetic? Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >lyeric100 > > > Peripheral Neuropathy >Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:28 EDT > >Dear Group > >I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had >much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's >balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either. >Any help or >hints would be greatly appreciated. > >Regards, > Mary > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Thanks for replying Doug. Will this treatment help with burning pain complaint too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 I've had good luck with needling at the last sensitive place on the limb. Typically patients will have feeling down to say, Spleen 7 or so. I'll needle rather superficially, pointing down at Spleen 7 and then Liver 6 or so, GB 35 etc.... using 6 needles around the leg. After a few treatments the neuropathies will hopefully subside to the feet themselves. Think of the socks and gloves image and start needling where the skin will first be exposed. hope this helps. doug , lyeric100@a... wrote: > Dear Group > > I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had > much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's > balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either. Any help or > hints would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Mary > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Hi Mike The 2 patients I have now, one is post chemotherapy-15 yrs, pain started after this and has gradually worsened. The other (79 yr old in great shape otherwise) came to me with low back, shoulder and bilateral below knee burning pain of several years duration and restless legs at night. Dr. could find no reason. The low back and shoulder pain have resolved nicely, but the pain and restless leg have not. Neither have diabetes but I would like to learn about treating neuropathy from that too Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Mary, Take a look at this link: http://www.cancerlynx.com/chinesemedicine3.html#peripheral Adam , lyeric100@a... wrote: > Dear Group > > I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had > much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's > balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either. Any help or > hints would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Mary > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thank you Ferran I will try it. Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 In a message dated 6/1/2005 6:59:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, adamhenrymargolis writes: http://www.cancerlynx.com/chinesemedicine3.html#peripheral Good Link. Thanks Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Low thyroid might indicate spleen qi deficiency. Aversion to cold might suggest yang deficiency. Nerves are " sinews " in TCM, are they not? - " Michael Tierra " <mtierra Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:00 PM Peripheral neuropathy >I have a patient who I'm advising who has been a long time sufferer from > Lyme's disease. She has multiple symptoms the worse being peripheral > neuropathy, with burning pain of teeth, arms, and legs. Numbness of the > left > foot, poor sleep habits. No thirst, she's cold sensitive and has low > thyroid. > > > > I'm advising her from a distance so I have not been able to personally > assess pulse and tongue and appearance. > > > > I've given her and she has done a very aggressive herbal protocol focusing > on blood moving herbs and qi tonics and of course, sleep. > > > > Peripheral neuropathy has always proven a difficult problem for me to > treat > either with acupuncture or herbs - I think either because there is > something > that I'm missing or because as I suspect if nerve damage is too far > progressed, it is impossible to ameliorate it. > > > > So I'd be interested in hearing of any of your personal views, > experiences, > approaches in treating this condition. > > > > Michael Tierra > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Hi Michael, I practice in rural Massachusetts and have seen hundreds of people with lyme. The issue of peripheral neuropathy is quite complicated by lyme which, as you know, is very nasty. For just straight PN I've often had good luck with the basic Worsley clearing treatments: 1. Aggressive Energy drain. 2. Akabanie balancing. 3. Exit/entry points. 4. Possession if needed. Beyond this I've had good luck with the divergent channels and, in a few instances, the combination of K-1 with Bl-1, or GV-20. These combined with constitutional formulas and some combination of blood movers, or herbs for wind/cold/damp (here in the Northeast) have often helped. The Lymes really complicates things. It seems to get very deep into the nervous system. Also, many of my patients have been on up to 1000mg of antibiotics daily for as long as 8 months to a year which, of course, wrecks havoc. The best results I've gotten with herbs for chronic lymes have been with Heiner Fruhaufs new gu formulas in the " Classical Pearls " line. After 23 years of treating lymes I'm seeing some impressive initial results. Warm regards, Lonny Jarrett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Please send me your contact information and I'll recommend her to you. She's out of state for me. On Behalf Of sppdestiny Friday, July 17, 2009 5:16 AM Re: Peripheral neuropathy Hi Michael, I practice in rural Massachusetts and have seen hundreds of people with lyme. The issue of peripheral neuropathy is quite complicated by lyme which, as you know, is very nasty. For just straight PN I've often had good luck with the basic Worsley clearing treatments: 1. Aggressive Energy drain. 2. Akabanie balancing. 3. Exit/entry points. 4. Possession if needed. Beyond this I've had good luck with the divergent channels and, in a few instances, the combination of K-1 with Bl-1, or GV-20. These combined with constitutional formulas and some combination of blood movers, or herbs for wind/cold/damp (here in the Northeast) have often helped. The Lymes really complicates things. It seems to get very deep into the nervous system. Also, many of my patients have been on up to 1000mg of antibiotics daily for as long as 8 months to a year which, of course, wrecks havoc. The best results I've gotten with herbs for chronic lymes have been with Heiner Fruhaufs new gu formulas in the " Classical Pearls " line. After 23 years of treating lymes I'm seeing some impressive initial results. Warm regards, Lonny Jarrett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hi Michael, What kind of herbal formulas have you tried? Cheers Geoff , " Michael Tierra " <mtierra wrote: > > Peripheral neuropathy has always proven a difficult problem for me to treat > either with acupuncture or herbs - I think either because there is something > that I'm missing or because as I suspect if nerve damage is too far > progressed, it is impossible to ameliorate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 I have little experience treating peripheral " foot and glove " neuropathy and recently started treating a patient who had no feeling from the knees down and little feeling from elbows down. I have treated him three times and after each visit he has increased feelings of pain in his fingertips and along his leg into his thigh. He is also experiencing intermittent feelings of warmth or cold in his legs, along his neck and in his arms. He said he is quite uncomfortable because it can be intense at times but does not last. I am checking to see if all of this is " normal " waking of the nerves? And if so, what is to be expected? History is that he started feeling numbness/tingling in his toes 5 years ago. He has had all tests and the only explanation is that he might have come across a toxic chemical in his past. No nerve compression, no diabetes (good blood tests). At the same time five years ago he started having symptoms of acid reflux and has a significant cough that has resulted (although he has no burning sensation anymore because he takes Prilosec) Any feedback is greatly appreciated! Lisa _______________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar & ocid=PID28326:\ :T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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