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Hi Mary, while I was an intern at Yo San I had a 76 year old male with

peropheral neuropathy in both feet esp in the left. After only 2 treatments,

and much to my surprise, with no herbs beacuse he was already in so many

different drugs, he was walking like he didn't in years.

 

I used KD 1, Sp 3, ST 36, LI 10 bilateral. Then Ba feng on L foot and Ba Xie

on R hand. It was a lot of needles but it really worked. Every time he came

I did a similar protocol.

 

Sincerely,

 

Ferran

 

>lyeric100

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> Peripheral Neuropathy

>Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:28 EDT

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>Dear Group

>

>I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had

>much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's

>balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either.

>Any help or

>hints would be greatly appreciated.

>

>Regards,

> Mary

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Mary,

 

You neglected to mention the etiology of these. You might want to consider

a nerve conduction test to rule our polyneuropathy as in diabetes. Are any

of these possibly diabetic?

 

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

>lyeric100

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>

> Peripheral Neuropathy

>Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:28 EDT

>

>Dear Group

>

>I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had

>much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's

>balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either.

>Any help or

>hints would be greatly appreciated.

>

>Regards,

> Mary

>

>

>

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I've had good luck with needling at the last sensitive place on the limb.

Typically patients

will have feeling down to say, Spleen 7 or so. I'll needle rather superficially,

pointing down

at Spleen 7 and then Liver 6 or so, GB 35 etc.... using 6 needles around the

leg. After a few

treatments the neuropathies will hopefully subside to the feet themselves. Think

of the

socks and gloves image and start needling where the skin will first be exposed.

hope this helps.

doug

 

 

, lyeric100@a... wrote:

> Dear Group

>

> I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have not had

> much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr. Tan's

> balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books either. Any

help or

> hints would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Regards,

> Mary

>

>

>

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Hi Mike

 

The 2 patients I have now, one is post chemotherapy-15 yrs, pain started

after this and has gradually worsened.

The other (79 yr old in great shape otherwise) came to me with low back,

shoulder and bilateral below knee burning pain of several years duration and

restless legs at night. Dr. could find no reason. The low back and

shoulder pain have resolved nicely, but the pain and restless leg have not.

Neither have diabetes but I would like to learn about treating

neuropathy from that too :)

 

Mary

 

 

 

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Mary,

 

Take a look at this link:

 

http://www.cancerlynx.com/chinesemedicine3.html#peripheral

 

Adam

 

 

, lyeric100@a... wrote:

> Dear Group

>

> I have had several peripheral neuropathies in the clinic and have

not had

> much success. I have treated with pattern differentiation and Dr.

Tan's

> balance method. I have not been able to find much in my books

either. Any help or

> hints would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Regards,

> Mary

>

>

>

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Low thyroid might indicate spleen qi deficiency. Aversion to cold might

suggest yang deficiency. Nerves are " sinews " in TCM, are they not?

 

 

 

 

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" Michael Tierra " <mtierra

 

Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:00 PM

Peripheral neuropathy

 

 

>I have a patient who I'm advising who has been a long time sufferer from

> Lyme's disease. She has multiple symptoms the worse being peripheral

> neuropathy, with burning pain of teeth, arms, and legs. Numbness of the

> left

> foot, poor sleep habits. No thirst, she's cold sensitive and has low

> thyroid.

>

>

>

> I'm advising her from a distance so I have not been able to personally

> assess pulse and tongue and appearance.

>

>

>

> I've given her and she has done a very aggressive herbal protocol focusing

> on blood moving herbs and qi tonics and of course, sleep.

>

>

>

> Peripheral neuropathy has always proven a difficult problem for me to

> treat

> either with acupuncture or herbs - I think either because there is

> something

> that I'm missing or because as I suspect if nerve damage is too far

> progressed, it is impossible to ameliorate it.

>

>

>

> So I'd be interested in hearing of any of your personal views,

> experiences,

> approaches in treating this condition.

>

>

>

> Michael Tierra

>

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>

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Hi Michael,

 

 

 

I practice in rural Massachusetts and have seen hundreds of people with lyme.

The issue of peripheral neuropathy is quite complicated by lyme which, as you

know, is very nasty. For just straight PN I've often had good luck with the

basic Worsley clearing treatments:

 

1. Aggressive Energy drain.

2. Akabanie balancing.

3. Exit/entry points.

4. Possession if needed.

 

Beyond this I've had good luck with the divergent channels and, in a few

instances, the combination of K-1 with Bl-1, or GV-20.

 

These combined with constitutional formulas and some combination of blood

movers, or herbs for wind/cold/damp (here in the Northeast) have often helped.

 

The Lymes really complicates things. It seems to get very deep into the nervous

system. Also, many of my patients have been on up to 1000mg of antibiotics daily

for as long as 8 months to a year which, of course, wrecks havoc. The best

results I've gotten with herbs for chronic lymes have been with Heiner Fruhaufs

new gu formulas in the " Classical Pearls " line. After 23 years of treating lymes

I'm seeing some impressive initial results.

 

Warm regards, Lonny Jarrett

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Please send me your contact information and I'll recommend her to you. She's

out of state for me.

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of sppdestiny

Friday, July 17, 2009 5:16 AM

 

Re: Peripheral neuropathy

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Michael,

 

I practice in rural Massachusetts and have seen hundreds of people with

lyme. The issue of peripheral neuropathy is quite complicated by lyme which,

as you know, is very nasty. For just straight PN I've often had good luck

with the basic Worsley clearing treatments:

 

1. Aggressive Energy drain.

2. Akabanie balancing.

3. Exit/entry points.

4. Possession if needed.

 

Beyond this I've had good luck with the divergent channels and, in a few

instances, the combination of K-1 with Bl-1, or GV-20.

 

These combined with constitutional formulas and some combination of blood

movers, or herbs for wind/cold/damp (here in the Northeast) have often

helped.

 

The Lymes really complicates things. It seems to get very deep into the

nervous system. Also, many of my patients have been on up to 1000mg of

antibiotics daily for as long as 8 months to a year which, of course, wrecks

havoc. The best results I've gotten with herbs for chronic lymes have been

with Heiner Fruhaufs new gu formulas in the " Classical Pearls " line. After

23 years of treating lymes I'm seeing some impressive initial results.

 

Warm regards, Lonny Jarrett

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Michael,

What kind of herbal formulas have you tried?

Cheers

Geoff

 

, " Michael Tierra " <mtierra wrote:

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> Peripheral neuropathy has always proven a difficult problem for me to treat

> either with acupuncture or herbs - I think either because there is something

> that I'm missing or because as I suspect if nerve damage is too far

> progressed, it is impossible to ameliorate it.

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I have little experience treating peripheral " foot and glove " neuropathy and

recently started treating a patient who had no feeling from the knees down and

little feeling from elbows down. I have treated him three times and after each

visit he has increased feelings of pain in his fingertips and along his leg into

his thigh. He is also experiencing intermittent feelings of warmth or cold in

his legs, along his neck and in his arms. He said he is quite uncomfortable

because it can be intense at times but does not last. I am checking to see if

all of this is " normal " waking of the nerves? And if so, what is to be

expected?

 

 

 

History is that he started feeling numbness/tingling in his toes 5 years ago.

He has had all tests and the only explanation is that he might have come across

a toxic chemical in his past. No nerve compression, no diabetes (good blood

tests). At the same time five years ago he started having symptoms of acid

reflux and has a significant cough that has resulted (although he has no burning

sensation anymore because he takes Prilosec)

 

 

 

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

 

Lisa

 

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