Digest Number 40

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>my shanghanlun teacher is Heiner Fruehauf, chairman of the dept of

>classical chinese med at National College of Naturopathic Med in

>Portland, OR. Heiner and all his teachers are grads of the chengdu

>school of TCM. They espouse a position that six channel theory is

>applicable to all diseases, not just external cold damage. In the

>commentaries in your book, it seems that this position is somewhat

>implicit, though never mentioned outright. Many of the formulae are

>discussed in broader principles applicable to a wide range of diseases.

>I have made use of the shaoyang discussion on the pivot concept and its

>relationship to the qi dynamic, for example, in understanding the

>plicationof xiao chai hu tang and derivatives..

>

>I was wondering what your position on this matter is. Fruehauf says the

>position he holds is not just implicit, but it is a well documented,

>albeit minority, position within TCM.

>

Remember, the book is a translation so it does not

necessarily reflect my personal opinions or ideas.

We were very careful to stay as close to the Chinese

as possible because our goal was to produce a work that

would reflect some small portion of the literature that

has accumulated over the past 2000 years. The position

of which you speak, I believe, is much more than a

minority position. I think there is a substantial group

of people, not only in China but also in Japan, that

uses SHL formulae for everything from colds and

flus to anything else they can figure out. There are

some folks who have a tendency to say that the SHL

is most useful in northern climates, while in the south

wen bing is more applicable. There is probably some

truth to this, although I think that both schools of thought

provide excellent formulae, which, when used appropriately,

yield excellent results in many situations.

 

You know, ironically, Zhang Ji himself didn't think

that the SHL provided answers to all diseases.

In the inytroduction he says using the book one

should be able to figure out more than half.

 

Glad to hear that you are using and enjoying the book.

 

Craig

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--- cem wrote:>The> position > of which you speak, I believe, is much

more than a > minority position. I think there is a substantial> group> of

people, not only in China but also in Japan, that> uses SHL formulae for

everything from colds and> flus to anything else they can figure out. In Japan,

the majority of herbalists practice what's called Koho-ha Kampo-, which

basically means " Old (ie classical) style Han methods (ie Chinese medicine) " .

The old style was in response to the Gosei-ha, which used more Sung-Jin-Yuan

methods (Li Dong-Yuan, Liu Wan-su, etc). The Koho- people stuck pretty

rigorously to the SHL and JGYL formulas, though eventually they threw out most

of the theory in favor of a more phenomenological approach (dx=tx, the patterns

are named for the formulae themselves). What eventually happened i think was

that the Japanese government approved only those formulas for which there was

significant clinical " evidence " , which basically means that SHL/JGYL formulas

are the only ones officially approved for use in the Japanese health care

system. So they use these formulae for just about anything. For a few

abdominal diagrams, see my Kampo no Fukusho page. (Sorry if I'm spouting off

about things people already know here... just wanna say I'm impressed as hell

with the roster of talent on this list.)

 

regards,

Robert Hayden, Dipl. Ac.

kampo36

 

 

 

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Hi Robert

 

Is your familiarity with kampo based upon clinical experience in japan

or with a kanpo doctor? I'm sure we'd all like to hear more.