Bidens

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

 

First, thank you Andy, for clearing the air and welcome to the group. I hope

that you will be able to participate in some of the discussions.

 

I have two questions for anyone on the list.

 

#1 How many (aproximately or exactly if known) medicinals are used in TCM

and of those what is the break down of plant:animal:mineral used?

 

#2 Can anyone tell me how TCM uses Bidens? There are three species used that

I am aware of, they are:

Bidentis Bipinnatae Herba gui zhen cao or nian shen cao

Bidentis Minoris Herba xian feng cao

Bidentis Tripartitae Herba lang ba cao

There are around 230 species worldwide and I know of 7 species used in the

West, one of which is bipinnata. This is a very common and weedy plant that

I have limited experience with using the Western herbal information I have

on it.

 

On that note a third question, a two parter:

What is that best Materia Medica in the Chinese language and is there a

source to buy it from here in the US?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture

 

 

" Serve others and cultivate yourself simultaneously "

Lao Tzu

[Guest guest]

Craig and Philip,

 

I didn't mean to sound so ignorant but instead was trying elicit the

opinions on the question. That being said, I agree with Craig that anything

purchased here would probably cost many times more than I would pay for it

in China. However, I don't have any plans to go in the near future, anyone

going want to take a couple hundred of my dollars and bring me back some

book?

Also Craig mentioned that someone needs to write another bencao in English

(I assume one of the reasons for this is translation and the use of " better "

terminology). I would love to start this work but need those books to move

forward. Perhaps someone out there would like to team up with me on this

project?

 

 

Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture

 

 

" Serve others and cultivate yourself simultaneously "

Lao Tzu

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Philip Riviere <riviere

< >

Cc: < >

Tuesday, December 07, 1999 12:39 AM

Re: Bidens

 

 

> Philip Riviere <riviere

>

> Thomas,

>

> If that can help..

>

> I will recommend you 2 classical " Bencao " :

>

> 1. <Bencao beiyao> (Essential Herbal Foundation) 1694 by Wang Ang

>

> relies on <Bencao Gangmu> and <Shen Nong Bencao Jingshu>.

> 470 yao divided in 8 categories.The basics for Chinese.

>

> numerous editions; for example, Tianjin kexuejishu chubanshe 1993

> ISBN 7-5308-1184-3/R.331

>

> 2. <Benjing Shuzheng> (Insights on Syndromes from the (Shen Nong) Herbal

> Foundation Canon) 12 juan 1832 by Zoushu (173 yao)*

>

> combines theories from <Shen Nong Bencao jing> + analysis from

<Shanghan

> lun> and <Jingui Yaolue>

>

> * Common editions include <Bencao Xushu> (Continuation of the

> Insights..) by Zou Shu

> 6 juan with 142 yao

>

> Shanghai kexuejishu chubanshe 1991 ISBN 7-5323-2534-2/R. 769

>

>

> 3. and one modern edition (impressive):

>

> <ZHONGHUA BENCAO> under the direction of Hu Ximing & Zhang Wenkang

> first edition in 2 volumes 1998

> Shanghai kexuejishu chubanshe ISBN 7-5323-4434-7/R. 1173

>

> Good substitute to the well known <Zhongyao dacidian> (Dictionary of

> Chinese Herbs)

>

>

> Having said this, I totally agree with Craig's comments (..any such

> thing as the " best " Materia Medica in Chinese)

>

>

> Philip Riviere.

>

>

At 10:43 PM 12/5/99 -0500, wrote:

> > " " <>

> >

> >Hello all,

> >

> >First, thank you Andy, for clearing the air and welcome to the group. I

hope

> >that you will be able to participate in some of the discussions.

> >

> >I have two questions for anyone on the list.

> >

> >#1 How many (aproximately or exactly if known) medicinals are used in TCM

> >and of those what is the break down of plant:animal:mineral used?

> >

> >#2 Can anyone tell me how TCM uses Bidens? There are three species used

that

> >I am aware of, they are:

> >Bidentis Bipinnatae Herba gui zhen cao or nian shen cao

> >Bidentis Minoris Herba xian feng cao

> >Bidentis Tripartitae Herba lang ba cao

> >There are around 230 species worldwide and I know of 7 species used in

the

> >West, one of which is bipinnata. This is a very common and weedy plant

that

> >I have limited experience with using the Western herbal information I

have

> >on it.

> >

> >On that note a third question, a two parter:

> >What is that best Materia Medica in the Chinese language and is there a

> >source to buy it from here in the US?

> >

> >Thanks in advance,

> >

> >Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture

> >

> >

> > " Serve others and cultivate yourself simultaneously "

> > Lao Tzu

> >

> >>Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help

> >

>

> > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help

[Guest guest]

Thomas,

 

If that can help..

 

I will recommend you 2 classical " Bencao " :

 

1. <Bencao beiyao> (Essential Herbal Foundation) 1694 by Wang Ang

 

relies on <Bencao Gangmu> and <Shen Nong Bencao Jingshu>.

470 yao divided in 8 categories.The basics for Chinese.

 

numerous editions; for example, Tianjin kexuejishu chubanshe 1993

ISBN 7-5308-1184-3/R.331

 

2. <Benjing Shuzheng> (Insights on Syndromes from the (Shen Nong) Herbal

Foundation Canon) 12 juan 1832 by Zoushu (173 yao)*

 

combines theories from <Shen Nong Bencao jing> + analysis from <Shanghan

lun> and <Jingui Yaolue>

 

* Common editions include <Bencao Xushu> (Continuation of the

Insights..) by Zou Shu

6 juan with 142 yao

 

Shanghai kexuejishu chubanshe 1991 ISBN 7-5323-2534-2/R. 769

 

 

3. and one modern edition (impressive):

 

<ZHONGHUA BENCAO> under the direction of Hu Ximing & Zhang Wenkang

first edition in 2 volumes 1998

Shanghai kexuejishu chubanshe ISBN 7-5323-4434-7/R. 1173

 

Good substitute to the well known <Zhongyao dacidian> (Dictionary of

Chinese Herbs)

 

 

Having said this, I totally agree with Craig's comments (..any such

thing as the " best " Materia Medica in Chinese)

 

 

Philip Riviere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 10:43 PM 12/5/99 -0500, wrote:

> " " <>

>

>Hello all,

>

>First, thank you Andy, for clearing the air and welcome to the group. I hope

>that you will be able to participate in some of the discussions.

>

>I have two questions for anyone on the list.

>

>#1 How many (aproximately or exactly if known) medicinals are used in TCM

>and of those what is the break down of plant:animal:mineral used?

>

>#2 Can anyone tell me how TCM uses Bidens? There are three species used that

>I am aware of, they are:

>Bidentis Bipinnatae Herba gui zhen cao or nian shen cao

>Bidentis Minoris Herba xian feng cao

>Bidentis Tripartitae Herba lang ba cao

>There are around 230 species worldwide and I know of 7 species used in the

>West, one of which is bipinnata. This is a very common and weedy plant that

>I have limited experience with using the Western herbal information I have

>on it.

>

>On that note a third question, a two parter:

>What is that best Materia Medica in the Chinese language and is there a

>source to buy it from here in the US?

>

>Thanks in advance,

>

>Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture

>

>

> " Serve others and cultivate yourself simultaneously "

> Lao Tzu

>

>>Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help

>