Guest guest Posted January 15, 2000 Report Share Posted January 15, 2000 Addendum........just saw the word hepatitis......the inflammatory component would suugest not to use it, especially if it is acute..........however, I have seen practitioners use it successfully in chronic cases of hepatitis or in cases with a history of mononeucleosis when the signs are of a particularly cold deficient nature. Best wishes, Will Morris Will wrote: > Will <will > > Dear Todd....... > It is possible depending on the nature of the problem. What is the > sign-symptom complex? Also what is the diagnosis east and west? > > An example would be a problem related to a finding of an empty pulse in the > left guan (bar) position and concommitant cold signs. The rest of the > formula construction will also affect your decision. > > In the tradition I remain.....Will Morris > > wrote: > > > TLuger () > > > > Is processed fu zi OK to use in patients with liver compromise? > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > ChickClick.com - girl sites that don't fake it! Free email with Sass. > > Tons of hip, free stuff too. > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/ChickClick " >Click Here</a> > > > > ------ > > > > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! > Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in > forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/gator4 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 also, my patient has been taking lasix for his ascites, but his MD says now his kidneys are failing from the excessive diuresis. I think he should stop lasix altogether for a little while to see what happens, while I warm the yang. Such a strong diuretic must be counter to my strategy, since extreme diuresis is a kidney yang xu sx itself. Also, he is depleting his essence, too from fluid loss, I would suspect. In hindsight, his coldness initially came on after a few months of lasix. While many people just treat hep c as dampheat, yin xu, blood stag and liver depression, I think yang xu is likely in later stages. Yan de xin in his book on blood stag and tcm geriatrics considers cold to be a major factor whenever fibrosis occurs, such as scleroderma. This should be applied to cirrhotic liver, as well, perhaps. In any event, overuse of cooling herbs may contraindicated in some cases. This is important, because most research and patent formulae for hep c focus on heat more than cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 Dear Definately, diuretics counter what you are trying to do. . . .and yes, one cannot lock on to one pattern to describe a disease, especially one as complex as Hep C. . . .which has many stages. The Shang Han Lun supports your astute diagnosis, which is in late stages of illnesses with a LONG COURSE, yang vacuity dominates (yin vacuity more in short course illnesses). This, again, shows the trouble with a short-sighted approach to biomedical diseases, creating formulas for diseases with no regard to stages or patterns. As far as the damp heat goes, look at zhu dan-xi's use of cang zhu and huang bai as an adjunct to zhen wu tang. >TLuger () > >also, my patient has been taking lasix for his ascites, but his MD says >now his kidneys are failing from the excessive diuresis. I think he >should stop lasix altogether for a little while to see what happens, >while I warm the yang. Such a strong diuretic must be counter to my >strategy, since extreme diuresis is a kidney yang xu sx itself. Also, >he is depleting his essence, too from fluid loss, I would suspect. In >hindsight, his coldness initially came on after a few months of lasix. >While many people just treat hep c as dampheat, yin xu, blood stag and >liver depression, I think yang xu is likely in later stages. Yan de xin >in his book on blood stag and tcm geriatrics considers cold to be a >major factor whenever fibrosis occurs, such as scleroderma. This should >be applied to cirrhotic liver, as well, perhaps. In any event, overuse >of cooling herbs may contraindicated in some cases. This is important, >because most research and patent formulae for hep c focus on heat more >than cold. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 where is the dan xi reference? [This message contained attachments] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 >TLuger () > >where is the dan xi reference? > Check out er miao san and modifications in the Bensky text, pg. 195. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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