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Have a cold - take Vitamin C. Still have the Cold and now constipation or

diarrhea.

What strikes me most about TCM is the consideration that is given to wrong

treatment. While most other treatment methologies applaud their success -

and never have a failure ! TCM acknowledges side affects or a bad treatment

and works to address those concerns. Thus develops a real science.

 

So I agree with Todd - in that folk Medicine has in many instances

degenerated into an off the counter remedy. TCM may well fall there also

unless we remain true to the path of knowledge.

 

 

 

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I want to define a few terms. To me, folk medicine refers to the

practice of treating various symptoms and diseases without reference to

any theory about how the body Works or how the medicines are selected.

While some people get amazing results with this style of practice, this

style itself is inappropriate for the practice of medicine for those who

are seriously ill, because this is ultimately a hit or miss affair in

which ones results cannot be evaluated in any systematic fashion.

Professional herbal medicine addresses this shortcoming by having

systems of analysis or ways to evaluate the course of disease. There

have been the numerous such systems worldwide throughout history.

However, only traditional Chinese medicine has continued to develop past

the end of the 19th century. All such professional herbal medicines are

distinguished by the differentiation of distinct patterns of illness.

This includes the ayurvedic medicine from India, homeopathy, and

American eclectic herbalism. When I said all patient should be

evaluated from the perspective of traditional Chinese medicine, I should

have said from the perspective of the professional holistic herbal

medicine.

 

Well I have no doubt that many people who practice of folk herbalism get

great results, that has everything to do with the person practicing the

medicine and nothing at all to do with the form of the medicine. As to

what sort of herbalist practices muscle testing, I can only speak for

the Portland area and I can assure you that I am correct about these

people mainly being sales reps. Amongst licensed health care

practitioners, the use of muscle testing is most common amongst

chiropractors. I certainly do not dispute the validity of chiropractor

training or licensure,nor do I suggest that these individuals are

knowingly behaving in a fraudulent matter. However, the patients that I

see are frequently seen by lay herbalists who are sales reps for a

company that shall remain unnamed. also, I must mention the use of

muscle testing is considered a highly controversial practice within the

chiropractic community itself.

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I want to define a few terms. To me, folk medicine refers to the

practice of treating various symptoms and diseases without reference to

any theory about how the body Works or how the medicines are selected.

While some people get amazing results with this style of practice, this

style itself is inappropriate for the practice of medicine for those who

are seriously ill, because this is ultimately a hit or miss affair in

which ones results cannot be evaluated in any systematic fashion.

Professional herbal medicine addresses this shortcoming by having

systems of analysis or ways to evaluate the course of disease. There

have been the numerous such systems worldwide throughout history.

However, only traditional Chinese medicine has continued to develop past

the end of the 19th century. All such professional herbal medicines are

distinguished by the differentiation of distinct patterns of illness.

This includes the ayurvedic medicine from India, homeopathy, and

American eclectic herbalism. When I said all patient should be

evaluated from the perspective of traditional Chinese medicine, I should

have said from the perspective of the professional holistic herbal

medicine.

 

Well I have no doubt that many people who practice of folk herbalism get

great results, that has everything to do with the person practicing the

medicine and nothing at all to do with the form of the medicine. As to

what sort of herbalist practices muscle testing, I can only speak for

the Portland area and I can assure you that I am correct about these

people mainly being sales reps. Amongst licensed health care

practitioners, the use of muscle testing is most common amongst

chiropractors. I certainly do not dispute the validity of chiropractor

training or licensure,nor do I suggest that these individuals are

knowingly behaving in a fraudulent matter. However, the patients that I

see are frequently seen by lay herbalists who are sales reps for a

company that shall remain unnamed. also, I must mention the use of

muscle testing is considered a highly controversial practice within the

chiropractic community itself.

 

todd

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Ed,

You should check out the new translation of the Shang Han Lun by Craig

Mitchell, from Paradigm Press. There is a lot of material on bian

zheng/transmuted patterns, i.e. patterns created by wrong treatment that

turns simple diseases into more complex ones. The main theme is using

precipitating medicinals (those that cause bowel movement) at inappropriate

times. . . .but this can be applied to any type of treatment. For example,

as you mentioned, the overuse of Vitamin C. . .which is cold and sour. In

wind/cold attacks, it can refrigerate the interior yang ming channel,

causing diarrhea or damp acuumulation sp qi vacuity constipation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>Ed Kasper <edkasper

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>Have a cold - take Vitamin C. Still have the Cold and now constipation or

>diarrhea.

>What strikes me most about TCM is the consideration that is given to wrong

>treatment. While most other treatment methologies applaud their success -

>and never have a failure ! TCM acknowledges side affects or a bad treatment

>and works to address those concerns. Thus develops a real science.

>

>So I agree with Todd - in that folk Medicine has in many instances

>degenerated into an off the counter remedy. TCM may well fall there also

>unless we remain true to the path of knowledge.

>

>

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