Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 I wait wait for the new clinically oriented discussion group to start to share this case. Even if folks are interested in other things, it's a good exercise for me to try to regurgitate a case out to you in some more easily assimilable form than that in which I first received it. A 50 y.o. woman, a financial counselor by trade. Chief complaints are sinusitis and chronic cough of 4 years duration. The cough actually started after a few months after being prescribed Prilosec for reflux. Even though she has long gone off Prilosec because she no longer experiences reflux to her knowledge; one of her M.D.s continues to call her condition reflux induced asthma. She has been seeing a pulmonologist, a GI doc and a rheumatoloigist for her Sjogrens. I'll try to keep my narrative as clear as possible. Everything seems so interrelated; it may be hard to keep my categories straight. The cough: She's been on antibiotics for 5 weeks and is scheduled for a 6th. The sputum is still yellow and gluey, before antibiotics it was green. It is worse early in the morning, with cold air and after eating. It sounds like there is a great deal of sputum rattling around in her lungs and she feels like it is coming from deep in her lungs and not just her throat. She uses an inhaler every day. The sinuses: She has had sinusitis for many years more than she has had the cough. She has a long history of allergies to pollens and also underwent 5 years of allergy shots for her allergies to yellowjackets and hornets. She has a long history of sinus related headaches, infections and antibiotics. On theory of her cough is that it is the result of post nasal drip. She had sinus surgery 3 years ago and since she no longer gets headaches but otherwise not much change. The Sjogrens: She had knee surgery on her left knee in 1993 which seemed to go well. After doing a month of PT both of her knees swelled up all of a sudden and were very stiff. The docs thought it was the PT. They have her cortisone shots and now there is very little inflammation. But soon after this knee situation she started getting conjuctivitis like symptoms in both of her eyes. The redness and the discharge soon gave way to grittiness and now dryness. After a year of going to eye doctors they realized she has Sjogrens (dx:1994). She also has little saliva production and has a great difficulty swallowing becuase of the dryness but also becuase of constant phlegm in her throat. She feels that there is a pocket in her throat where food sticks. When she tries to cough the food out there is always a great deal of phlegm. Occasionally she gets yeast infections on the back of her tongue. Also on the autoimmune front, she has begun getting Reynaud like symptoms in her hands and feet. Is any of this clear? Systems review: Digestion: Not much appetite but still eats 3 meals a day. She often doesn't finsih meals because of the implications of her swallowing difficulty. Loss of taste. often feels bloated after meals. A history of reflux and ulcers but none now. Bowel movements: One every other day. No difficulty. Well formed, not dry. Urine: No problems. Doesn't wake to urinate. Sleep: Occassionally wakes with warm flashes. Rare nightsweats. Sleeps well, 7-8 hours. Gyn: 2 pregnancies, 2 live births. Her period became irregular 2 years ago and stopped last October. She has some yellow vaginal discharge with itching a few days a month. Some cyclical breast tenderness. Low sex drive. General: sensitive to cool and damp weather. Cold hands and feet (Reynauds). Little spots of eczema but otherwise no dry skin. She enjoys her warm flashes because before they started a year ago she was cold all of the time. She says her energy is pretty good. She works fulltime and is also the sole care taker for her husband who has late stage MS. She is very present and matter of fact. She is very appropriate and warm. Very strong Heart qi. Tongue:Dusky. Puffy with teethmarks and very tender. More swollen in Lung area. Geographical coat-no coat in center, thick yellow in back, patchy dirty coat in lung area. Sticky slimy coat- it doesn't look that dry. White lines that look like scars criss cross her tongue. She denies any injuries. Does anybody know what to make of these? Pulse: very weak, very thin, and deep except in the Heart position which fuller and stronger. Analysis: I am wondering if the dryness of the eyes and mouth is not more from or as much from phlegm obstruction ( or yang not moving the fluids) than from yin xu. The phlegm could be from Lung/ K yin xu or Sp/K/Lung qi/yang xu. Its probably a little bit of everything. Or is it? Definitely Phlegm heat in the Lungs. Spleen qi/yang xu with damp/phlegm accumulation. Stomach yin xu but with no real St yin xu heat signs? Dampheat in the lower jiao. Kidney yin not nourishing Liver yin(eyes) and not securing yang. I don't have my formula with me but it was on the idea of Clearing the phlegm heat from the lungs while supplementing the spleen: huang qi, bai zhu, zhe bei mu, huang qin, yu xing cao, sang bai pi, xing ren and a few other guys. With this she's coughing more stuff up and clearing out more deep seated phlegm from her lungs. I also have her using a grapefruit seed extract nasal spray and doing saline sinus washes. I'm afraid that putting any drying sinus herbs would dry her out more. I'm wondering if my formula shouldn't be more based on 6 gents of metal and water(er chen tang + dang gui and sheng di) plus regular 6 gents plus phlegm heat herbs. This would make it more oriented toward Spleen tranformation while also addressing the yin. What do y'all think? Thanks for plowing through this with me. Kristin Wisgirda, Lic.Ac., MTOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 please be clear. cases should still be presented to this list; the new list is for those who belive clinical practice should be separated from these other related issues. I offer the new list as a service, though I personally believe the existing forum is more appropriate for actually understanding cases in context. I beleive most of the senior px on this list share this position, so I do not expect the new list to be well represented. However, I may be wrong about this bias and thus the new list will be offered to see what the truth is here.. [This message contained attachments] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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