Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 I admittedly have no use for NAET or any form of muscle testing, but that is my personal opinion and one I suspect that is not shared by the majority. As for homeopathy, I have full length articles published on this subject and I do not recall any discussions categorically dismissing homeopathy, which has a long distinguished history. Homeopathy is a relevant subject in the context of TCM. For instance, can we understand remedies in bian zheng terms? I think the answer is yes. In India, some doctors use the tridosha system of ayurveda to select homeopathics. This is one example of using traditional rationale to understand empirical therapies. I feel the same way about candida. When we understand it according to TCM, we can then treat it bian zheng style. Otherwise, candida still exists, but the treatment suggested is allopathic or naturopathic, not bian zheng. And it may or may not work, but this has nothing to do with TCM per se. I certainly think it is incorrect to suggest that treating candida allopathically or naturopathically is the only option and that we must just adopt empirical methods from any other modality in order to accomplish this. This just reflects a lack of depth in TCM training at the basic level, not a failure of TCM. Finally, to follow on the topic of food allergies some more, it is interesting to consider some of the foods Paul Bergner listed last week as the main insults to the american diet and thus likely to interfere with herbal treatment. Sodden Wheat food, meaning yeasted breads, noodles, etc are commonly prohibited by gu syndrome experts and sp/st proponents, so there is certainly precedence for this. Dairy was a commonly recognized problem food for some, but a health tonic for others. As for sugar and fat , in general, use of overly " greasy, spicy and sweet foods " is the main dietary prohibition so oft repeated in TCM herbal texts, so nothing new here, either. As for specific fats, the main culprits are the processed vegetable fats, not butter or even lard (note: the traditional chinese pig was a small lean animal quite unlike our modern barnyard hormone laden versions). I think these margarines and cooking oils can be considered rancid or spoiled foods in the traditional sense. I don't think anyone on this list disputes the role of such food in poor health and the need to adjust the diet in herbal therapy. In fact, just to be clear about this, I consider the TCM bian zheng use of foods and bian zheng analysis of western herbs, drugs, homeopathic, etc. to be part of Chinese herbal medicine and relevant to this list. What is questionable to me is the use of various " testing " methods to eliminate a wide range of specific foods. That has no precedent in TCM, nor has any bian zheng explanation yet been offered. , " " <zrosenberg@p...> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, Julie. > I don't understand why anyone would think this list was 'down on' > homeopathy or candida. . . . I personally love classical homeopathy. > Candida is a bian bing/a disease diagnosis, categorized under > chong/parasitic disorders in Chinese medicine. All Todd or I were saying > was that treating it only symptomatically won't cure it. > As far as NAET goes. . . .I won't open that can of worm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 > I admittedly have no use for NAET or any form of muscle testing, but > that is my personal opinion and one I suspect that is not shared by > the majority. I tend to feel the same way about muscle testing, but then, I'm also the guy who listens to a persons pulse and thinks I know something about what it is telling me. My guess is that like the pulse, muscle testing can give some useful information. But, I would also suspect, that like pulse diagnosis, it takes some time to learn how to do it well. I've had different practitioners 'muscle test' me from time to time. Some had a light touch, that I suspected might have given them useful information. Others cranked me around with a significant amount of pressure. It was unpleasant. And I felt like they were trying to get my body to confirm their thoughts. > I certainly think it is incorrect to suggest that treating candida > allopathically or naturopathically is the only option and that we > must just adopt empirical methods from any other modality in order to > accomplish this. This just reflects a lack of depth in TCM training > at the basic level, not a failure of TCM. I think this is true and a very important point. Just because we can not get Chinese medicine to work for something does not mean that Chinese medicine can't do it. It might just mean that we don't yet know enough about making it work to get it to do so. It is not that the medicine failed, but that we failed to understand how to use it. On the flip side of this, I've treated patients who were not helped with Western medicine or naturapathic medicine, but responded to some very simple simple Chinese medical treatment. Michael ------ Michael Max, Licensed Acupuncturist michaelmax http://www.home.earthlink.net/~michaelmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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