Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 Dear Luke, Thank you for your response. I have tried, for about 5 months, using Chinese herbal formulas for heat/phlegm, using such herbs as Bei Mu, Qian Hu, Chen Pi, Fu Ling, Su Zi, etc., many combinations, with about a 60% improvement in the symptoms. Then I attended the Southwest Conference on Botanical Medicine in Phoenix in April, and heard an interesting lecture on lobelia, by Cascade Anderson Geller, and thought I might try lobelia for that last 40% (which I know will be the hardest). Julie Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 Hello Julie, I have used lobelia inflata in tincture form and found it to be unpleasant, but not toxic. According to Michael Tierra, in PLANETARY HERBOLOGY: Energetics: bitter, neutral Meridians/Organs effected: liver, lungs, heart, small intestine Part used: seeds, leaves and flowers Properties: antispasmodic, expectorant, stimulant, emetic, alterative, diuretic (note: it was certainly an emetic!) Michael comments, " When extracting alkaloids, as with lobelia, prepare an acid tincture using apple cider vinegar. macerate four ounces of the seeds (the strongest part of this plant), or the entire upper portion of the plant, mix with eight ounces of vinegar, and add to a wide-mouthed jar. After two weeks, strain and bottle for use. " Dosage: tincture, 5-15 drops; in infusion, 6-15 grams. I also recall reading that the American Indians used to smoke lobelia but I don't recall the source. You might contact Eclectic Institute at 800-332-4372 or pro for both information and high quality product. But this being a Chinese herb site, why not use a Chinese herbal combination which is more balanced than a single herb and may counter the unpleasantness of emetics? Best wishes, luke PS has anyone used vitamin O and if so can you e-mail your comments to me? , juliej8@a... wrote: > Dear Group: > > Does anyone have experience with the herb " lobelia inflata " for lung phlegm > and cough? I don't mean our own chinese herb, lobelia chinensis, which drains > dampness. I want to use the lobelia inflata to treat a woman who smoked > marijuana for 13 years and now has sticky, difficult to expectorate phlegm, > sometimes tinged with blood, and some pea-sized blood clots she coughs up. > She has had chest x-ray, bronchoscopy and sputum analysis, all negative. She > quit smoking 5 years ago but still has the gunk in her lungs. > > How would the lobelia be used? How long would it take to have an effect? I > know it can be toxic; how toxic? > > Thank you. > > Julie Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2000 Report Share Posted May 12, 2000 Cascade was my western herb teacher for a year. , juliej8@a... wrote: > Dear Luke, > > Thank you for your response. I have tried, for about 5 months, using Chinese > herbal formulas for heat/phlegm, using such herbs as Bei Mu, Qian Hu, Chen > Pi, Fu Ling, Su Zi, etc., many combinations, with about a 60% improvement in > the symptoms. Then I attended the Southwest Conference on Botanical Medicine > in Phoenix in April, and heard an interesting lecture on lobelia, by Cascade > Anderson Geller, and thought I might try lobelia for that last 40% (which I > know will be the hardest). > > Julie Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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