Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 Hi, A colleage of mine just had back surgery L4-L5 area to repair damaged disk. Pieces of bone were removed from spinal column. I have not seen her yet, but her main concern at the moment is to get off the pain meds from surgery. The surgery itself went well and she is in much less pain that she was prior to surgery. I'm thinking of Lotus Herbs Traumanex formula, and perhaps Golden Flower San Qi -- to move Blood and relieve pain. Any other suggestions? Traumanex is: Su Mu Mu Xiang Xue Jie Er Cha Da Huang Hong Hua Dang Gui We Bai Shao Fu Ling Mu Dan Pi Gan Cao Tao Ren Ru Xiang Mo Yao Thanks. Catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 While that Rx looks reasonable, Catherine, you might want to try something that also has gu sui bu in it to help the bone heal better. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 Below are some formulas from an article published in Vol.6 No.10 of " Chinese Journal of Information on Traditional " in 1999, page17-18. They are not specific to surgery but should be relevant and provide some ideas. I personally find xu duan and bu gu zhi to be quite useful as ingredients for healing bone tissue. all the best, Stephen Morrissey 3. Vertebral osteoporosis in the elderly, combined with fracture: 3.1. Promoting blood circulation to remove blood stasis at early stage: Tao Hong Si Wu Tang or Xue Fu Zhu Yu Tang; Add: San Qi, Tu Bie Chong (ground beetle), Dan Shen, Ru Xiang, and Mo Yao. 3.2. Tonifying the kidney at middle and advanced stages: 3.3. Related to deficiency of kidney-yin: Liu Wei Di Huang Wan, Gui Ban; Bie Jia. 3.4. Related to deficiency of kidney yang: Gui Fu Ba Wei Wan, Add: Lu Jiao Jiao, Yin Yang Huo, Rou Chong Rong. 3.5. Related to deficiency of kidney and liver: Ba Zhen Tang, Add: Gui Ban, Lu Jiao Jiao. C Hemenway [chemenway] Saturday, May 20, 2000 9:58 AM Herbs ffor back surgery Hi, A colleage of mine just had back surgery L4-L5 area to repair damaged disk. Pieces of bone were removed from spinal column. I have not seen her yet, but her main concern at the moment is to get off the pain meds from surgery. The surgery itself went well and she is in much less pain that she was prior to surgery. I'm thinking of Lotus Herbs Traumanex formula, and perhaps Golden Flower San Qi -- to move Blood and relieve pain. Any other suggestions? Traumanex is: Su Mu Mu Xiang Xue Jie Er Cha Da Huang Hong Hua Dang Gui We Bai Shao Fu Ling Mu Dan Pi Gan Cao Tao Ren Ru Xiang Mo Yao Thanks. Catherine ------ Save 75% on Products! Find incredible deals on overstocked items with Free shipping! http://click./1/4013/9/_/542111/_/958838709/ ------ Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2000 Report Share Posted May 22, 2000 Catherine, Just a thought, but how about doing a Chinese medical pattern discrimination and then choosing your formula and its specific ingredients and their individual dosages based on the patient's pattern? Bob > [Original Message] > C Hemenway <chemenway > > 05/20/2000 10:05:10 AM > Herbs ffor back surgery > > Hi, > > A colleage of mine just had back surgery L4-L5 area to repair damaged disk. > Pieces of bone were removed from spinal column. I have not seen her yet, > but her main concern at the moment is to get off the pain meds from surgery. > The surgery itself went well and she is in much less pain that she was prior > to surgery. > > I'm thinking of Lotus Herbs Traumanex formula, and perhaps Golden Flower San > Qi -- to move Blood and relieve pain. Any other suggestions? > > Traumanex is: > > Su Mu > Mu Xiang > Xue Jie > Er Cha > Da Huang > Hong Hua > Dang Gui We > Bai Shao > Fu Ling > Mu Dan Pi > Gan Cao > Tao Ren > Ru Xiang > Mo Yao > > > Thanks. > > Catherine > > > > > > ------ > Save 75% on Products! > Find incredible deals on overstocked items with Free shipping! > http://click./1/4013/9/_/542111/_/958838709/ > ------ > > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help > --- Robert Flaws --- bobflaws --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2000 Report Share Posted May 22, 2000 C Hemenway <chemenway Saturday, May 20, 2000 9:05 AM Herbs ffor back surgery >Hi, > >A colleage of mine just had back surgery L4-L5 area to repair damaged disk. >Pieces of bone were removed from spinal column. I have not seen her yet, >but her main concern at the moment is to get off the pain meds from surgery. >The surgery itself went well and she is in much less pain that she was prior >to surgery. > >I'm thinking of Lotus Herbs Traumanex formula, and perhaps Golden Flower San >Qi -- to move Blood and relieve pain. Any other suggestions? > >Traumanex is: > >Su Mu >Mu Xiang >Xue Jie >Er Cha >Da Huang >Hong Hua >Dang Gui We >Bai Shao >Fu Ling >Mu Dan Pi >Gan Cao >Tao Ren >Ru Xiang >Mo Yao > > >Thanks. > >Catherine > > > > > >------ >Save 75% on Products! >Find incredible deals on overstocked items with Free shipping! >http://click./1/4013/9/_/542111/_/958838709/ >------ > >Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help > Catherine, I dont know in what form you prescribe Chinese herbs-prepared or raw-but out of the Blood moving herb category, several of them herbs have a (relatively) stronger pain -stopping function and may be useful here: Yan Hu Suo (especially if dry-fried in rice vinegar) Wu Ling Zhi(especially if dry-fried in rice vinegar) Chi Shao & you have already incuded Mo Yao & Ru Xiang (also better if dry-fried in rice vinegar) I also concur with the use of Xu (Chuan) Duan as it can nourish the bones & sinews and moves Blood. Several Chinese personal sources state that Dan Shen (15-20 grams) is now also one of the herbs of choice post -surgically. Derek High Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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