Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 I've just cursorily scanned a few postings on the pulse, so this is not a specific response, but some general thoughts. First, let me be clear. I don't speak with any authority on this subject. It is hardly an area of expertise for me. So anything I 've said (or will say) on this subject should not carry any particular weight, in my opinion. It is my observation, however, that the herbal texts I am familiar with place little or no emphasis on nan jing style 12 position pulse dx. The majority of the time, pulse is described in general terms like wiry, deep or slippery, without regard to position in terms of cun , guan and chi positions. This is true whether we are talking about classics like zhu dan xi, basics like Fundamentals of CM or advanced internal medicine, like Philippe sionneau's Tx of Dz in TCM. In some cases, reference is made to position, but this is fairly circumscribed. The vast majority of instances I found were for three qualities: 1. slippery in the spleen position 2. wiry in the liver position 3. weak in the kidney position Clinical use of the nanjing positions for SI, PC, TB, LI, BL in herbal texts is even rarer and never mainstream, as far as I can tell. While these very systematized ideas from acupuncture theory were toyed with during the jin-yuan, according to Unschuld, they ultimately never took hold among most herbalists. Li shi zhen certainly discussed cun, guan and chi in every chapter of his pulse classic, but it is worth noting that this work was a later attempt to systematize all prior knowledge and perhaps did not necessarily reflect actual practice through much of Chinese history. As to the 28 general pulses of Li shi zhen, I can only observe that most of the clinically meaningful information seems to be connected to combinations of fairly straightforward qualities, such as floating/sinking, slippery/choppy, xu/shi, fast/slow and wiry/tight. this would lend support to Flaws contention that the main clinical skill in pulse dx for an herbalist is memorizing these combinations and relationships. Pragmatically, I'm not sure what role any additional nuancing in pulse dx would play in my selection of herbs. However, the relationship between nanjing style pulsetaking and acumoxatherapy is certainly a different story altogether, one I can't really comment upon at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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