Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 Greetings, I was wondering if anyone who uses topical herbs for injuries (such as yunnan baio, dit dot jow, etc.) on patients, has noticed a benefit or detrement to themselves as the topical herbs also absorb through the finger tips of the practitioner. . . I don't typically use gloves and haven't noticed anything myself, but if anyone has feedback, I would appreciate it. Thanks. susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 Susan, I have applied such herbs for years with no ill effects. Some of my teachers in China have been at it for many decades. No one ever mentioned one word of warning, except for ingredients such as di yu or other specific toxins that do absorb through the skin and can damage the liver. Ken - <SusFro Saturday, May 27, 2000 6:08 PM topical herbs > Greetings, > > I was wondering if anyone who uses topical herbs for injuries (such as yunnan > baio, dit dot jow, etc.) on patients, has noticed a benefit or detrement to > themselves as the topical herbs also absorb through the finger tips of the > practitioner. . . I don't typically use gloves and haven't noticed anything > myself, but if anyone has feedback, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > susan > > ------ > BeMANY, where eGroups members SAVE on long distance. > http://click./1/4121/9/_/542111/_/959476157/ > ------ > > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 Susan, I personally never noticed any real detriment either, except perhaps for the staining of the hands and fingers with Dit Da Jiao, and perhaps some residual herbal " fragrance " . However, you may consider using a good moisturizer, as ethanol containing formulas may cause drying and cracking of the skin with prolonged of exposure, some individuals are more susceptible to this than others. On the positive side, I took a seminar with several Tui Na expert practitioners from China several years ago, and their comment to this question was that the frequent use of " Die Da " formulas, when combined with applying " Tui Na " manipulation/massage movements to pts. was effective in preventing the development of arthritis in the hands of the practitioner as one got older. Don't know if that last one is true or not, probably depends a great deal on the amount of strain, and repetitive stress that one puts on ones hands, but it sure sounds good, and probably (hopefully) has an element of truth in it considering the ingredients commonly incorporated in " hit medicine " linaments (as long as your not using formulas with unduly " toxic " ingredients). All the best, Bruce -(original message follows)- << Subj: topical herbs 05/27/2000 6:09:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time SusFro Reply-to: <A HREF= " " > @</A> Greetings, I was wondering if anyone who uses topical herbs for injuries (such as yunnan baio, dit dot jow, etc.) on patients, has noticed a benefit or detrement to themselves as the topical herbs also absorb through the finger tips of the practitioner. . . I don't typically use gloves and haven't noticed anything myself, but if anyone has feedback, I would appreciate it. Thanks. susan ------ BeMANY, where eGroups members SAVE on long distance. http://click./1/4121/9/_/542111/_/959476157/ ------ Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <sentto-201013-1194-959476155-GRCanning=aol.com (AT) returns (DOT) > Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v73.13) with ESMTP; Sat, 27 May 2000 21:09:54 -0400 Received: from ej. (ej. [208.50.144.75]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Sat, 27 May 2000 21:09:34 -0400 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-201013-1194-959476155-GRCanning=aol.com (AT) returns (DOT) Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ej. with NNFMP; 28 May 2000 01:09:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18850 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 01:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 May 2000 01:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r18.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.72) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 May 2000 01:09:14 -0000 Received: from SusFro by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.9.) id a.b4.5d69b6e (4464) for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 21:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <b4.5d69b6e.2661cba7 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 101 SusFro MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list Precedence: bulk List-Un: <-> Sat, 27 May 2000 21:08:55 EDT topical herbs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2000 Report Share Posted May 29, 2000 Dear Susan, I have not noticed any detriment from using liniments and hit medicine on patients. If anything, the liniments help my fingers and hands...Eti Quoting SusFro: > Greetings, > > I was wondering if anyone who uses topical herbs for injuries (such as > yunnan > baio, dit dot jow, etc.) on patients, has noticed a benefit or detrement to > > themselves as the topical herbs also absorb through the finger tips of the > practitioner. . . I don't typically use gloves and haven't noticed > anything > myself, but if anyone has feedback, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > susan > > ------ > BeMANY, where eGroups members SAVE on long distance. > http://click./1/4121/9/_/542111/_/959476157/ > ------ > > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Hi Susan I have been using dit das for some years on and off.A few that I made myself caused no problems except maybe for dry skin.However I did make one super combo with some toxic herbs .......which are supossed to be OK for external use.I was rubbing it into my arms and shins to strenghten them for martial arts (like an iron palm training) .They were making my hands go very cold and sometimes at night I woke up with numbness in them.Its posible the herbs were to toxic or possible the the iron fillings in the formula were too cold for me.I stopped it and everything went back to normal. I didn't know that di yu was toxic .....!!! Heiko Lade Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist 2 Jenkins St. Green Island, Dunedin New Zealand Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 http://www.lade.com/heiko Email: heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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