who's responsible for higher standards

May 29, 2000

In a message dated 5/29/00 12:48:47 AM, herb-t writes:

<< Licensing boards focus on safety, not mastery, efficacy or even

competence. Perhaps that is as it should be. Who wants the government

doing any more than guaranteeing safety, anyway? Even CEU's are

required by your board, you can get away with just about anything. >>

Licensing boards also measure for efficacy, as thiat is one of their charges.

It is a misnomer that is is for the minimum safe level of training. Lisensing

boards are responsible to the consumer affiars in most states.

DAVe

May 29, 2000

I have heard only 50% of graduates from TCM schools are actually practicing

(TCM) .. This is one of those grape-vine stats..

_Jason

HappyHerbalist.com [Health]

Monday, May 29, 2000 12:22 PM

RE: who's responsible for higher standards

Ken, isn't it a requirement when obtaining a license to operate a school in

California that these statistics are available? I believe that is one of the

questions the state asks on its form.

school license a school to be able to promote to potential students that

95% of its graduates

are practicing successfully? First we have to find out what the percentage

is.

Ed Kasper L.Ac., Santa Cruz, California

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May 29, 2000

> << This is why I feel so strongly about Bob Felt's suggestion that

> a fund be created to administer an ongoing survey of the profession

> to provide a data base containing answers to what ought to be

> everybody's question: how do practitioners fare after graduation? >>

>

> This is actually something that should be done by the schools

organization,

> which is also, interestingly enough, the only group with enough money to

do

> so. The problem is, of course, that if it is bad news, they have to share

> that with everyone too, including the ACAOM. Thus, there is no incentive.

Perhaps with a broadbased call for such monitoring there would

develop a serious disincentive to remain ignorant of the outcome

of the educational process. It seems like any educator sincerely

dedicated to quality would jump at the chance to be able to

assess their products.

It would be interesting to hear from representatives of the schools

themselves on this issue and to learn whether or not such an

intiative would be supported or fought.

Ken

May 29, 2000

Another factor affecting the income of acupuncture school graduates, is lack of BUSINESS skills and lack of motivation to acquire good business skills. I actually think this is a major factor -- something I've struggled with and something I'd say 75% of the pracititioners I know struggle with.

Also, it's very slow going trying to start a business with little to no capital and having to work other jobs while building a practice.

Therefore, I think a study based on income should not look at the first five years of practice. These first few years are often unstable due to many other factors besides skill.

Catherine

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Monday, May 29, 2000 9:39 PM

RE: who's responsible for higher standards

I have heard only 50% of graduates from TCM schools are actually practicing(TCM) .. This is one of those grape-vine stats.._JasonHappyHerbalist.com [Health]Monday, May 29, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: RE: who's responsible for higher standardsKen, isn't it a requirement when obtaining a license to operate a school inCalifornia that these statistics are available? I believe that is one of thequestions the state asks on its form.school license a school to be able to promote to potential students that95% of its graduatesare practicing successfully? First we have to find out what the percentageis.Ed Kasper L.Ac., Santa Cruz, California------Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws.http://click./1/4634/9/_/542111/_/959627373/------Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help

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