Guest guest Posted June 3, 2000 Report Share Posted June 3, 2000 Todd- No feathers ruffled - just some clarification intended. In a message dated 00-06-02 23:46:10 EDT, you write: << what this means is that while we could conceivably incorporate homeopathic remedies into traditional Chinese medicine, there's really no way to incorporate homeopathic philosophy into Chinese medicine. >> Just the opposite: Since there is no way to incorporate homeopathic philosophy into , then we cannot conceivably incorporate homeopathic remedies into TCM. <<The nature of the vital force of homeopathy is inherent in the word vital. Vital refers to a quality of living organisms.>> Yet the vital force is also referenced as a vibrational quality, something all objects posses whether animal, vegatable or mineral. Even rocks have a vibrational pattern/qi/vital force. See George Vithoulkas on this subject. <<it could perhaps be argued that the vital force of homeopathy is but one aspect of what Chinese medicine refers to as qi.>> Qi and vital force are all the same. I think you are splitting hairs here. <<Homeopathy uses non material forms of medicines to focus its therapeutic effect on a completely non material aspect of qi. >> By non-material forms of medicines, you're referring to potencies which possess less than trace elements of substance. However, therapeutic effects of homeopathy focus clearly on very material aspects of qi whether it be internal disease, external lesions or skin sx, or abnormal behavior due to mental sx. <<Since homeopathy appears to address an aspect of the qi not addressed by other forms of Chinese medicine>> Disagree. Both forms of medicine address the same sx pattern and incorporate body/mind/spirit sx. << the remedies appear to act according to a different set of rules>> They act according to an opposite set of rules. Homeopathy treats heat conditions with remedies that would produce heat in the healthy person; TCM uses cooling herbs and points to clear heat. There are no similarities here. However, as a practitioner of both, what I have found is that the disease mechanisms of TCM explain the sx pattern of the remedy. Before I studied TCM, the remedy patterns of the materia medica made little sense - for eg, why would one remedy treat itchy skin, thirst, heartburn and inability to sleep? Yes, the common thread is heat, but that understanding came through the study of heat evil. << So once again, we return to the choice of either having to reorganize homeopathic remedies according to the principles of traditional Chinese medicine or immerse oneself completely in the system as it currently exists. >> Exactly. We cannot reorganize remedies according to TCM principles. Remedies and TCM cannot be used together under the same philosophy, and probably should not be used together to treat the same condition. I say probably, for logically, if you are trying to clear heat for eg, then a remedy that would produce burning pains would seem to work against the TCM treatment strategy. On the other hand, remedies are energetic and herbs physiological, so theoretically it is argued that one should not necessarily effect the other. Thus, because of this, and coupled with the fact that you cannot tell which strategy is having an effect, it's suggested that modalities are not combined in the same treatment. Sometimes in treating a patient, you reach an impasse where either a remedy is no longer producing change, or herbs and acupuncture level-off in effectiveness. At such a time, I may put the acup patient on a remedy, or treat the homeopathic patient with acupuncture. This seems the most effective strategy. However, if you are not an accomplished homeopath, this strategy can really mess-up your case, so I do not suggest it for amateurs. Gina Gabrielle, LAc, DHom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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