Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 its all the rage here in NZ and Aust at the moment .Someone wrote an article that it contained SYNEPHRINE ..which helps you lose fat...esp if combined with 7 cups coffee(black) and asprin and grapefruit juice. I looked in Benski and there is no mention of synephrine in zhi shi ...does anyone have any other sources to check this? Heiko Lade Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist 2 Jenkins St. Green Island, Dunedin New Zealand Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 http://www.lade.com/heiko Email: heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 In The Illustrated Chinese Materia Medica, it mentions that Zhi Shi contains the alkaloid Synephrine in the amounts of .024-0.18%...that's very minute! Can't imagine the amount one would have to take to get any effects from it! Kleido2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 I'm curious myself about the synephrine content of Zhi shi, however I do know that some studies have found a particular chemical in grapefruit that keeps caffeine in your system longer and that any one who drinks 7 cups of black coffee a day is going to experience some boosted metabolism(thermogenesis) causing some fat loss. I'll keep looking on the zhi shi. Best in health, Shelly > " heiko " <heiko > > > Re: zhi shi >Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:28:11 +1200 > >its all the rage here in NZ and Aust at the moment .Someone wrote an >article >that it contained SYNEPHRINE ..which helps you lose fat...esp if combined >with 7 cups coffee(black) and asprin and grapefruit juice. > >I looked in Benski and there is no mention of synephrine in zhi shi ...does >anyone have any other sources to check this? > >Heiko Lade >Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist >2 Jenkins St. >Green Island, Dunedin >New Zealand >Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 >http://www.lade.com/heiko >Email: heiko > ______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 That's the point; synephrine only has potentially dangerous druglike effects when strongly concentrated, not as it is typically used in TCM. This is a good example of where biochemical details can lend clarityto a safety issue. This has nothing to do with prescribing, which I agree should be done on a bian zheng basis unless you are trained otherwise. But it has everything to do with defending our traditional usages of herbs in amodern context. , Kleido2@a... wrote: > In The Illustrated Chinese Materia Medica, it mentions that Zhi Shi contains > the alkaloid Synephrine in the amounts of .024-0.18%...that's very minute! > Can't imagine the amount one would have to take to get any effects from it! > > Kleido2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 In The Illustrated Chinese Materia Medica it notes that zhi shi contins the alkaloid synephrine of .024-.18%...not much...so probably the weight loss is coming from the massive caffeine/grapefruit boost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2000 Report Share Posted July 4, 2000 Subhuti Dharmananda at the Institute for Traditional Medicine has published a report on synephrine and zhi shi. Apparently there had been some substantial negative press somewhere in the world (Europe, I believe) about the drug-herb. People may have died and blamed the herb use. The ITM paper essentially criticised the media hype and stated that the herb was unlikely to be useful for weight loss or beneficial. Check out the ITM website for more info. Mark Reese - " heiko " <heiko Tuesday, July 04, 2000 5:28 AM Re: zhi shi > its all the rage here in NZ and Aust at the moment .Someone wrote an article > that it contained SYNEPHRINE ..which helps you lose fat...esp if combined > with 7 cups coffee(black) and asprin and grapefruit juice. > > I looked in Benski and there is no mention of synephrine in zhi shi ....does > anyone have any other sources to check this? > > Heiko Lade > Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist > 2 Jenkins St. > Green Island, Dunedin > New Zealand > Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 > http://www.lade.com/heiko > Email: heiko > > > ------ > Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue. > http://click./1/6137/11/_/542111/_/962706604/ > ------ > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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