Guest guest Posted July 6, 2000 Report Share Posted July 6, 2000 Karen I didn't see this when you posted it but stumbled on to it in an unrelated search. I wanted to make sure you saw Andy Ellis' reply to this specific issue. Andy said, " We have researched Xi Xin and found that the species we use is not the one listed by the FDA. We are currently testing it but doubt that it contains aristolochic acid. " , Karen S Vaughan < creationsgarden@j...> wrote: <<. In fact, it is not possible to practice shang han lun style herbalism without using mu tong and xi xin. The only option, it would seem, is to purchase these herbs from someone who can provide a certificate of analysis>> Well you aren't likely to get one for xi xin because it most probably does contain aristolochic acid. The omission in Bensky is almost certainly because it hadn't been sufficiently analyzed rather than because it is AA-free and the caution for renal failure is a dead giveaway....The challenge is to find substitutes for xi xin in formulas or to find substitute formulas that achieve the same end. I disagree strongly with this last assertion. Xi xin is used long term in du huo ji sheng wan, for example, so I think I think the jury is still out on this one. Du huo ji sheng tang is so widely used worldwide in so many forms that if AA toxicity was a major risk factor for xi xin, we should have heard about it long ago. We'll see. Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden@j. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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