Guest guest Posted July 21, 2000 Report Share Posted July 21, 2000 Gary wrote: Coffee is necessary for my health, but it is not for everyone. I base this on the blood-type diet theory. As blood-type A, coffee is more than medicinal, it is essential. For blood-type O it is a big no-no. I do not believe in Chinese Food or Diet Therapy ( yes I am a heretic ). Gary, First, I consider dietary therapy to be fundamental to the long term success of herbal therapy. Unlike acupuncture, which can be of immeasurable benefit, yet remains optional or substitutable, at least. Foods are also on a continuum with herbs and regularly constitute an overlapping topic in TCM texts and classics. And I agree that coffee, like all nonpoisonous substances, is good for some and not for others. I have used blood type therapy myself. Dietary advice is part of my scope of practice in Oregon and since I have a degree in biology and a couple of years of naturopathic school, I have studied and practiced this subject from perspectives other than TCM for 15 years. I also owned a multidisciplinary clinic for three years that included a naturopath who utilized blood type therapy as his foundation of dietary intervention. As a matter of course, I provided all clinic patients with blood type diet info and thus involved hundreds of patients in this therapy. I have several observations to make. Dietary intervention according to blood type seems to affect a symptoms, etc. However, I have also observed that if people continue to eat excessively sweet, spicy and greasy foods, their health does NOT improve, regardless if the only eat foods on their type list. But I'd like to add at the outset that I believe the reverse also is true. TCM dietary therapy is limited in its own right. And scientific ideas like blood type diet can be of importance just as the germ theory of disease often serves us well. Both my staff naturopath and Peter D'adamo are very clear about this. You still have to follow the basic rules of eating. The question is what constitutes such basic rules? I'd like to address your specific comments below. Blood-type food therapy works better although it is an incomplete paradigm. I have experimented upon myself and my patients with typical prescriptions to avoid cold foods, raw foods, spicy foods, greasy foods, ad nauseum. I felt no effects of this therapy upon myself nor did my patients. How many years have you been in practice? And am I correct that your practice has taken place in a warm dry environment for the most part (Arizona and NM)? Raw cold foods are certainly tolerated better in the hot dry climate, as would dairy (yin balancing yang in both cases). I think dairy and raw foods can very problematic in the northwest and my experience suggests this single change can have profound effects on patients health. There is also evidence mounting that many of the most potent and important disease preventing substances in food are more accessible when the food is cooked. For years, emphasis has focused on the substances destroyed by cooking, but lately research has focused on what cooking enhances. While raw foods are higher in vitamins than cooked foods, only a few vitamins are actually destroyed by gentle cooking methods. Yet the breakdown of cellulose by cooking vegetables renders the remaining nutrients far more assimilable. A well known example is lycopene from tomatoes, but this is true of all food compounds called flavonoids, which are turning out to be extremely valuable substances. Many raw food advocates point to the near total elimination of enzymes through cooking. While enzymes are well known to be essential to health, there is no evidence I now of that shows food enzymes to play a necessary role in health. When I asked Peter D'adamo about this, he referred me to the Pottenger studies on cats. Sorry, the fact that cats may thrive on raw milk, a food with easily accessible nutrients and no fiber, proves nothing to me about human needs. Nor does the fact that our ancestors obviously evolved in a raw foods environment in primeval africa. This is because much anthropological consensus now has it that the fire was under primate control before homo erectus evolved in modern homo sapiens (500,000 years ago). Thus, we have always had fire. In addition, dental evidence suggests that our control of fire gave us a serious adaptive advantage over our competitor primates. Evidence now suggests that earlier hominid primates succumbed often to dental caries and parasites caused by eating raw grains and other raw foods. D'adamo also directed me to Weston Price's famous study of dental development and diet. However, the details of this landmark ethnographic style study present people all over the world eating WHOLE foods diets. In no cases were the subjects living mainly on a RAW foods diet. As for spicy and greasy foods prohibition, these concepts are directly linked to herbal properties and can't be dismissed without also completely dismissing the value of herb qualities at the same time. First, it is herbs which give foods spice to begin with. So the same excessive spices are also medicinal in many cases, such as gan jiang, chuan jiao, rou gui, ding xiang, to name a few. These herbs warm the interior. They often aggravate flaring of ministerial fire and yin xu. they treat coldness. It does not seem reasonable to accept these herbal functions and then say there is no effect from eating foods with lots of these herbs. And while different constitutions have different needs and tolerances, it is a central tenet of yin fire theory that all people can be overstimulated by spice, because of its direct effect upon ministerial fire, leading to myriad disease and shortened life. As for greasy, this seems obvious. While the theories regarding fat in the diet shifts a lot, there are some general points of agreement. Fried foods provide fat which has become toxic; animals raised without exercise on corn diet and rendered animal protein produce fat that has pathological imbalances , causing the body to have inflammatory tendencies. Margarine and vegetable shortening cannot be used in normal biological process and just add fat tissue and also cause inflammation. Basically all polyunsaturated oils, pressed or extracted are rancid by the time they are purchased, unless they have been refrigerated in lightproof bottles or otherwise preserved. Rapeseed is a toxic plant, the source of canola. On the other hand, naturally raised meat, dairy, chicken, eggs etc, have got a bad rap. They are safe in moderation. But again, I must return to herbs to drive this home. If certain herbs are said to be greasy and this is a constant cause for concern, this must also be true of foods. Finally, does the spleen like damp. No. Are raw and greasy foods damp? Yes? This is tied to basic TCM theory. We can debate the clinical validity of TCM ideas, but if the spleen does not transform and transport fluids, the whole system falls apart for me. I abandoned it because it is really based on Chinese cultural mores. For example, cheese, yogurt and dairy were looked upon as very bad, not because they were truly bad for one, but because the hated Mongol invaders made it a part of their daily regimen. I think you are throwing out the baby with the bathwater here. The example you provide is historically correct and TCM dietary texts do not prohibit dairy, but ascribe it properties like any other food. Zhu dan xi refers to the correct and incorrect use of milk in his works, for example. So while chinese popular culture has a problem with dairy for the reason you describe, I don't think there is evidence that this bias extended to medicine as a rule. And these "mores" do explain at all the more important examples you dismiss above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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