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Heiko Lade

Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist

2 Jenkins St.

Green Island, Dunedin

New Zealand

Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012

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heiko <heiko

Thursday, 27 July 2000 19:51

Re: Fw: Re: [Fwd: FYI Aristolochia & FDA]

 

 

> Hi Heiko

>

> I would be very interested in following this up. It is apparent that

either some

> folk-lore is being spread among herbalists to try and save face, or else

the

> medical profession has not done their job in investigating and reporting

this

> issue.

>

> This could become a strategic issue. If it can be proven that this report

is

> true then it would restore some credibility and objectivity to the herbal

> industry -- if not then the herbal industry needs to bite the bullet,

accept

> that even with this 'crash' herbalism is still extremely safe compared to

> prescribed drugs, and get on with life.

>

> I haven't heard any calls for the Concorde to be banned? Even though it

now has

> an extremely unsafe record. The industry average for air crashes is

1:8,000,000

> passenger flights. The Concord's record is now 1:23,000 passenger flights

(last

> week it was <1:2,500,000 passenger flights.)

>

> Can you feed this back through your network? They can fax the French

article to

> me and I'll try and get it translated or at least summarised. Our Ministry

of

> Health IN NEW ZEALAND would be interested in the findings.

>

> My fax is +64-9-832 4883

>

> Kind regards

>

> Ron

> [OR MAIL TO ME BELOW TO SAVE FAX COSTS]

> heiko wrote:

>

> > Heiko Lade

> > Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist

> > 2 Jenkins St.

> > Green Island, Dunedin

> > New Zealand

> > Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012

> > http://www.lade.com/heiko

> > Email: heiko

> > -

> > <acuman1

> >

> > Thursday, 27 July 2000 4:06

> > Re: Re: [Fwd: FYI Aristolochia & FDA]

> >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/25/00 9:49:13 PM, herb-t writes:

> > >

> > > << The issue does not appear to be large doses out of traditional

> > > context,

> > > but rather small doses given cumulatively. And the issue always

> > > involved identification problems or lay prescribing. >>

> > >

> > > I have talked with herbalists from Belgium, and they used raw herbs

and

> > herbs

> > > 600 times the dose normally used (on a body weight ratio, of course)

on

> > cats,

> > > dogs, and mice. It hurt mice, so they said it was bad if used for long

> > > periiods. The whole thing was a sham. Trouble is that I have a whole

> > booklet

> > > of info on it to disprove the whole thing and it is in French, so I

need

> > an

> > > interpreter, and dont' have one.

> > > There was no misidentification, butthey thought that could be the

reason.

> > The

> > > reason why the liver problems and cancer happened had only ot do with

the

> > > drugs and diet programs they were given, and a similar program without

the

> > > drugs in another town had no problems (same herbs no drugs). The media

> > wasn't

> > > interested. Here inthe US, some of the media is.

> > > Volunteers?

> > > David Molony

> > >

> >

>

> > >

> > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

healthcare

> > practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics

specializing

> > in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

> > including board approved online continuing education.

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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