Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 well said rh If long-term low doses of fangji are sufficient to cause renal failure, it doesn't seem too farfetched to entertain the notion that there may be therapeutic benefits beyond placebo for low doses as well. rh Heiko Lade Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist 2 Jenkins St. Green Island, Dunedin New Zealand Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 http://www.lade.com/heiko Email: heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 There is no substitute for a thorough knowledge of Chinese herbal medicine,diagnosis, and familiarity with all kinds of preparations, manufacturingmethods, and dosages of ingredients. Then there will be fewer problems.>>>Very Correct. Bioessence has a 5 to 1 concentrates from mainland, that passed an FDA analysis with flying colors, that are a little stronger. I use about 1 1/2 to 2 times the recommended dose alon - Friday, September 15, 2000 5:18 PM Re: Digest Number 328 cont on 9/15/00 4:30 PM, heiko at heiko wrote:> > well said rh> > If long-term low doses of fangji are sufficient to> cause renal failure, it doesn't seem too farfetched to> entertain the notion that there may be therapeutic> benefits beyond placebo for low doses as well.> > rh> > > Heiko Lade> Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist> 2 Jenkins St. > Green Island, Dunedin> New Zealand> Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012> http://www.lade.com/heiko> Email: heiko > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare> practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing> in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,> including board approved online continuing education.> > http://www..org> > Again, there are several variables here:1) quality of the product2) preparation of the herbs3) proper diagnosis4) length of time5) patient's constitution6) particular medicinal. . ..for example, toxic medicinals such as badou/croton tiglium work at very small dosages. Medicinals that supplementqi, yin or blood need larger dosages. . ..huang qi generally needs a largedose, shou di huang a large dose7) therapeutic goal of treatmentSo, while many 'patents', especially poor quality ones with raw ingredients,ground up, and left on the shelf for extended periods, need a larger dose.The Longzhou pills generally suggest 8 pills three times a day. Myexperience is that at least 3x the dosage is necessary (Dr. Shen alsomentions this as well in his writings). Other prepared medicines are verypotent. . . .There is no substitute for a thorough knowledge of Chinese herbal medicine,diagnosis, and familiarity with all kinds of preparations, manufacturingmethods, and dosages of ingredients. Then there will be fewer problems.Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 on 9/15/00 4:30 PM, heiko at heiko wrote: > > well said rh > > If long-term low doses of fangji are sufficient to > cause renal failure, it doesn't seem too farfetched to > entertain the notion that there may be therapeutic > benefits beyond placebo for low doses as well. > > rh > > > Heiko Lade > Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist > 2 Jenkins St. > Green Island, Dunedin > New Zealand > Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 > http://www.lade.com/heiko > Email: heiko > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare > practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing > in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, > including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Again, there are several variables here: 1) quality of the product 2) preparation of the herbs 3) proper diagnosis 4) length of time 5) patient's constitution 6) particular medicinal. . ..for example, toxic medicinals such as ba dou/croton tiglium work at very small dosages. Medicinals that supplement qi, yin or blood need larger dosages. . ..huang qi generally needs a large dose, shou di huang a large dose 7) therapeutic goal of treatment So, while many 'patents', especially poor quality ones with raw ingredients, ground up, and left on the shelf for extended periods, need a larger dose. The Longzhou pills generally suggest 8 pills three times a day. My experience is that at least 3x the dosage is necessary (Dr. Shen also mentions this as well in his writings). Other prepared medicines are very potent. . . . There is no substitute for a thorough knowledge of Chinese herbal medicine, diagnosis, and familiarity with all kinds of preparations, manufacturing methods, and dosages of ingredients. Then there will be fewer problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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