Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Jason you wrote How come we rarely hear that any therapy did not work for a given the >disease pattern? How come we only hear of the successes? Good point.But I have written up case histories ,good ones and bad ones and have submitted them to the Australian Chinese medicine education and research Journal .Most others still only write up the ones that went right. Realistically speaking and I have observed this in the practise of others ,the very busy practitioners get lots of succeses but also get lots of failures.One teacher I worked with in China used to see 100 patients in a morning and people would travel 4 hours on the train to see him.We brought him to Australia ,noone knew he was coming and I referred him a couple of people on Monday morning and by Friday he was seeing 20 per day...within a couple weeks he was booked out far in advance.All the acupuncturists referred him their chronic cases.....they had lots of treatment ...and a lot didn't get better. I guess they just thought he could help ,or he made them believe he could help. He never regarded his failures as failures,they just didn't have enough treatment. Admittedly I believe he had a bigger that me. Heiko Lade Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist 2 Jenkins St. Green Island, Dunedin New Zealand Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 http://www.lade.com/heiko Email: heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 In a message dated 9/19/00 12:29:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alstone writes: << I'm a mature person and I can generally keep things in perspective, but I can't help but wonder if there's something that I can do to keep my patients through those tough long term cases. >> Al, I was one of those tough long term cases (at least 20 visits to resolve my carpal tunnel syndrome) and what kept me coming back was that my acupuncturist made sure I always felt better after the treatment.Maybe the wrist pain was still there, but everything else about my health, mood, energy, outlook, etc. was improving. I don't think this is too much to ask of ourselves as practitioners. We can always improve something! Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Heiko reminisced: >>>He never regarded his failures as failures,they just didn't have enough treatment.<<< You know, I'd like to get some opinions on this. How do you sell six months of treatments where the patient may feel absolutely no difference until that 7th month? I'm lucky if I can get three treatments out of a patient without them running off with some smooth-talking chiro or silver-tongued homeopath. We're all taught how to treat patients and every once in a while, I get a significant success. But nobody has ever addressed what to do in the face of medicinal failure. I'm a mature person and I can generally keep things in perspective, but I can't help but wonder if there's something that I can do to keep my patients through those tough long term cases. Sincerely, -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 > > You know, I'd like to get some opinions on this. How do you sell six > months of treatments where the patient may feel absolutely no difference > until that 7th month? There definately should be SOME improvement in seven months. . . . .in quality of life, relief of some of the symptom pattern, increased energy, regular menses, etc. Absolutely no change is a bad sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 juliej8 wrote: > Al, I was one of those tough long term cases (at least 20 visits to resolve > my carpal tunnel syndrome) and what kept me coming back was that my > acupuncturist made sure I always felt better after the treatment.Maybe the > wrist pain was still there, but everything else about my health, mood, > energy, outlook, etc. was improving. I don't think this is too much to ask of > ourselves as practitioners. We can always improve something! Thanks. That's a good idea. -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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