Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 >>>>Very interesting. All TCM modern or Classic texts are writer by people and thus fallible. Of course. If there were perfect people then or now we wouldn't need scholars, scientists and their disciplines to scrutinize ideas that promise to protect the span of life each of us believes is our due. But, people aren't perfect, and we need arts and sciences. We study the traditional literature with scholarly disciplines so we can know as much as possible about what the people who developed the ideas we are adopting meant when they wrote that literature. We study using modern research methods, not only to protect the field's reputation from the damage of biased results, but also because it increases our practice skills and helps generate insight. We study the ideas of individuals because human creativity is a source of invention. These are not either-or propositions. A healthy field has all these undertakings and, if everyone keeps their evidence on the table in full view of everyone else, we will make better choices and the field will develop. bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com 44 Linden Street Robert L. Felt Brookline MA 02445 617-738-4664 You are old when your youth has been reduced to the themes of car commercials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 Speaking of fallibility... Failure is an essential part of learning, growth and development, let alone science. Normal science [i use the term in the sense that Thomas Kuhn employed it in his Structure of Scientific Revolutions.] is largely concerned with the documentation of failures. That's how scientists compile the record of experimentation that proves or disproves the theories and principles with which they are concerned. That's what scientific literature is: a compilation of lessons learned from failure. It seems to me that we are currently engaged in an experiment to determine whether or not traditional Chinese medicine can be successfully transmitted without reference to the bulk of the literary materials that have sustained it throughout its past 2,000 years of growth and development. At some point, we will have to take stock of how this approach is working out. As scientists, I hope we can demonstrate the requisite integrity to learn from such an experience. Of course the classics are fallible...and so are we all. Santayana said that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Thus the choice presents itself: study the classics or repeat the failures that they document. What does this have to do with you, the herbalist who is reading this rant? Well, if you have been educated in the use of Chinese herbal medicines without a solid foundation in the classical literature, what exactly are you doing? The Orientalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2000 Report Share Posted September 22, 2000 - Well, if you have been educated in the use ofChinese herbal medicines without a solid foundationin the classical literature, what exactly are youdoing? >>>>>>>For the most part trying to reproduce what is currently practiced in main land China alon yulong Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:54 PM Re: Fallible classics Speaking of fallibility...Failure is an essential part of learning, growthand development, let alone science.Normal science [i use the term in the sense thatThomas Kuhn employed it in his Structure of ScientificRevolutions.] is largely concerned with the documentationof failures. That's how scientists compile the recordof experimentation that proves or disproves the theoriesand principles with which they are concerned. That'swhat scientific literature is: a compilation of lessons learned from failure.It seems to me that we are currently engaged in anexperiment to determine whether or not traditional Chinese medicine can be successfully transmittedwithout reference to the bulk of the literarymaterials that have sustained it throughout itspast 2,000 years of growth and development.At some point, we will have to take stock of howthis approach is working out. As scientists, I hopewe can demonstrate the requisite integrity to learn fromsuch an experience.Of course the classics are fallible...and so arewe all. Santayana said that those who cannotremember the past are condemned to repeat it.Thus the choice presents itself: study the classicsor repeat the failures that they document.What does this have to do with you, the herbalistwho is reading this rant?Well, if you have been educated in the use ofChinese herbal medicines without a solid foundationin the classical literature, what exactly are youdoing?The OrientalistChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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