Guest guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Share Posted October 2, 2000 I would be delighted to see Mr. Kapchuk fully defend his position on this subject. Until then, I will have to concur with Flaws' assessment, quoted below. We might otherwise ask whether the short lived prominence of the school of purgation (founded by zhang zi he), which claimed to successfully treat all disease with strong purging (through bowels, sweat and vomit) is enough justification to support the modern practice of nature curists, who all also embrace this idea. It is often pointed out that if this school was valid, then it would have remained prominent. The fact that it never achieved widespread professional support is often used as a reason by chinese herbalists to dismiss this approach to healing. Why doesn't the same standard apply to psychiatry? Rather than brushing aside the role of talk therapy in TCM, I am rather asking for evidence to support a modality that is already widely used by American practitioners as if it was a well documented part of traditional practice, when this does not appear to be the case. In my experience, psychoanalysis that continually stirs up emotions or dwells on childhood developmental issues is an impediment to healing most of the time, not an adjunct. Modern western culture puts way too much emphasis on how one "feels"; I think this is one of our core social pathologies. I agree totally with the nei jing admonition on the importance of shen in healing, but from my perspective, most psychotherapy serves more to disturb the shen, then calm it. So I use herbs and acupuncture to regulate qi and shen; I counsel patients about behavior, including the role of emotions in disease; and when they are ready, I advise practices that reinforce this position, such as qigong or other forms of yoga and meditation. A note of caution though is that patients who are mentally imbalanced will often worsen from qi gong if this therapy is introduced prematurely. Flaws says (from http://www.bluepoppy.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000002.html), "Further, I also think it is extremely important for students and practitioners to have direct, personal access to a wider selection of Chinese medical literature. For instance, Ted Kaptchuk, in his Preface or Introduction to Acupuncture in Practice, mentions Wu Kun's "Medicine Without Form" and Wu Ju-tong's use of the so-called "Divine Method of Incantation," both putative systems of Chinese psychotherapy. Reading Ted's reference to these, one might be tempted to think that these premodern methods were widely used, or that the premodern existence of these methods implies some deficiency within modern Chinese medicine. (italics mine: TL) Personally, I don't know if they were or were not widely used during their time. But before I hold them out as evidence of the existence of premodern Chinese medical psychotherapy and, even further, use them as examples of something lacking in modern practice, I need to find out more about them. First I need to read what Wu Kun and Wu Ju-tong had to say for themselves, not just Ted's passing reference to them. Then I need to read what other Chinese doctors have said about what Wu and Wu said. Then I have to answer the question, "What happened to these methodologies over time?" If they are no longer considered a part of standard professional Chinese medicine, why not? If they truly provided some necessary, extremely valuable service to consumers of professional Chinese medicine (which I am not saying they did not), why then do they appear to have died out within professional Chinese medicine? " -- Chinese Herbal Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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