Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 Peter Borten wrote: there is a big cloud of herb dust and some of it goes into my lungs. Grinders and Organic dust diseases Dear Peter Borton I am very interested in the process of powdering process of herbs, and I constantly look for the different methods possible. This because, I believe any chemical processing of organic matter will change it structure, and thereby its active compounds. That's why TCM Patent medicines doesn't work as well as raw herbs. That's why Alfred Vogel and all the Biodynamical movement folks will grind their own flour, since vitamins and much of the goodies disappear during heating etc So Peter, I would like have details of how you do your Grinding? What kind of machines, what companies and prices, what kind of herbs possible to grind, and other expericences (amounts)... Regarding the problem of herb powder causing lung damage, I would hold that any source non-common to the body will lead to pathological changes of significance, when continuous stimulation is in question. I had a neighbour, a carpenter, who died last week from a pneumonia at the age of 47, and as most would know, dust is one of the leading reasons in this field of work. Maybe you should consider using a mask and other air filtering methods as a safety installment, especially if you look through below. Following I found on: http://www.vl28.dial.pipex.com/chap11.htm ORGANIC DUST DISEASES Workers in agriculture, pharmaceuticals, furniture making and food manufacturing are exposed to ducts of animal and vegetable origin. Example include antibiotics, cereals flour, milk and egg powder, spores of fungi and yeasts. In some cases exposure to organic dusts such as wood dust can lead to toxic effects or can cause cancer. The biggest problem arises from the provocation of allergic reactions, Extrinsic allergic alveolitis (or hypersensitivity pneumonia) is a lung disease caused by breathing in particles of organic dusts which penetrate into the lungs causing and allergic reaction and leading to tissue damage (fibrosis) and impairment of lung functions. Some of the more well-known forms are described in the panel in the next page. Acute symptoms are usually short lived in the absence of further exposure. In the chronic form, irreversible pulmonary fibrosis may develop. Occupational asthma may occur in susceptible individuals as a result of exposure to dusts, fumes or vapours. Organic dusts are a major cause including grains, flour, plant, gum, insects, animal products and woods. An allergic reaction does not occur on first exposure but only after an interval which may vary from weeks to years. Once sensitisation has occurred, symptoms of chest tightness and breathing difficulties are provoked by re-exposure to the causative agent. Prevention: the first step must be to change to alternative processes or materials or to eliminate exposure by enclosure. Where this is not possible, exposure should be controlled either by exhaust ventilation or use of respiratory protection. All potential exposure to organic dust - particularly mouldy material - should be identified before work starts and appropriate precautions adopted. If symptoms occur, it is important that these are reported to a doctor while effective treatment is possible. Farmer's Lung: this can follow exposure of persons who have previously become sensitised to the dust generated on moving certain spoiled vegetable produce, particularly hay and corn. Spoiled hay is however, only one of the potential sources. The spores are common in litter and in various stored fodders, including silage. Hardly any sample of stored grass or grain is likely to be entirely free of organisms which cause the disease. When such produce is disturbed, for example, in grinding corn or feeding cattle, the dust containing the spores may be breathed in. Such an exposure may sensitise people doing this work and after this, exposure to even quite low concentrations of the spores will produce symptoms. Mushroom Worker's Lung: this is caused by exposure to fungi which grow in compost used to spawn mushrooms, but the precise fungal agent has net been isolated. Reports of degree or recovery vary considerably. Maltworker's Lung: this is caused by inhaled organic dust continuing spores of the fungus Aspergillus clavatus which are released into the air in large concentration during the turning of barley in open floor maltings. Severity of symptoms varies. Bird Fancier's Lung: this is well recognised in pigeon breeders and budgerigar fanciers. The causative agent comes for the bird's serum protein and the disease results from exposure to dust from bird dropping and feather dust. Symptoms are similar to those found in Farmer's Lung. Symptoms have also been noted in poultry workers. Bagassosis: this is caused by exposure tp spores in the handling of fibrous cellulose materials from the inner stalk of sugar cane which has been crushed and the juice extracted. This can be prevented by treatment with a biocide. Other causes; other causes or extrinsic allergic alveolitis have been reported including certain hardwood dusts, mouldy wood products, cork dust, cheese moulds, coffee bean dust, moulds on preserved meat products, fish meal, and dry rot dust. FURTHER INFORMATION ON ORGANIC DUST DISEASES HSE Publication: HSE Books A55 Farmer's Lung EH/66 Grain Dust M5/4 Organic dust surveys IND(G)95(L) Respiratory Sensitisers IND(G)140(L) Grain Dust in non-agricultural workplaces. Organic agents that may cause Occupational Asthma Agent Occupation(s) affected Wheat, grain, flour Millers, Bakers, Farmers and Grain Handlers Hops Brewers Coffee Beans Coffee Handlers Castor Beans Gardeners, Bean Baggers, Millers Gums Printers Tobacco dust Tobacco Workers Wool Wool Workers Beetles, locusts, cockroaches Laboratory Workers Crickets, grain weevils Millers, Farm workers Rats and mice Grain Storage, Laboratory Workers Prawn and oysters Shell Fish Processing Cedarwood, Boxwood, Redwood, Resin, African Zebrawood Bakers (??) Farm workers??, Carpenters, Woodworkers and finishers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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