Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Kristin- The recommendation to avoid antioxidants during chemo is based upon bad science and is contradicted by substantial experience with patient outcomes according to practicioners I've corresponded with. Patients tend to fare much better with antioxidants and antioxidant-rich herbs. The Review of Aromatic and Medicinal Plants has a whole section devoted to antioxidant herb research in cancer. The journal Anticancer usually has a few articles devoted to antioxidants in cancer treatment (although they tend to focus on vitamins rather than herbs.) Donald Yance, who's practice deals primarily (and with great success) with cancer always supplements the diet of people who are undergoing chemotherapy or radiation therapy with silymarin, taken before bedtime. The chemotherapeutic agent Cisplatin is known to be toxic to the kidneys but silymarin protects the kidneys and liver from that toxicity. See J. Gaedeke et al, " Cisplatin Neurotoxicity and Protection by Silymarin. " Nephrology, Dialysis and Transplantation 11 (1):pp55-62 (1996) Silymarin has a demonstrated synergistic effect when combined with Cisplatin and Doxorubicin in ovarian cancer. See G. Scambia et. al. " Antiproliferative Effect of Silybin on Gynaecological Malignancies: Synergism with Cisplatin and Doxorubicin. " European Journal of Cancer 32A (5) 877-82. (1996) This allows these chemotherapeutic drugs to be effective at lower doses, minimizing the toxicity to the body. See also X. Zi et. al. " Anticarcinogenic Effect of a Flavanoid Antioxidant Silymarin in Human Breast Cancer Cells MDA-MB 468: Induction of GI Arrest Through and Increase in Cip1/p21 Concomitant with a Decrease in Kinase Activity of Cyclin-Dependent Kinases and Associated Cyclines. " Clinical Cancer Research 4(4): 1055-64 (1998) This shows shows an exceptional anticarcinogenic effect which appears to be caused by reducing the cancer-promoting enzymes cited in the title. A number of Chinese medicinals used in Fu-zheng therapy are high in antioxidants or are liver protective. (Rhemannia, turmeric, scute, schizandra, ginger, for example). A review of that literature may provide more guidance. Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. " Faith and doubt both are needed - not as antagonists, but working side by side - to take us around the unknown curve. " - Lillian Smith On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:26:07 -0400 <kwisgirda writes: >I have a patient who has justed started chemo. She is currently taking >milk thistle but not at my recommendation.=20=20 >I was wondering if as the milk thistle protects the liver from toxins >if it can also lessen the action of certain toxic substances? >I know that certain antioxidants (eg vitamins C and E) are sometimes >prohibited during chemo therapy because the antioxidant actions are >supposed to help the cancer cells protect themselves. >Is there any information out there on milk thistle and chemo? ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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