Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 Molly you wrote " Her gut is sensitive to herbs and it has been tricky finding a formula that does not aggravate the IBS. " Go to the library of CHA under IBS /curly question . Its a formula that I got from Steven Clavey re:IBS ..... " the basic formula " I would just omit fu xiao mai just food for thought Heiko Lade Registered Acupuncturist / Chinese Herbalist 2 Jenkins St. Green Island, Dunedin New Zealand Tel: (03) 488 4086, Fax: (03) 488 4012 http://www.lade.com/heiko Email: heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 To Zev and others regarding my patient with high blood pressure associated with long term use of gan cao: Here is some information about her case: Age 47, a single mother and registered nurse working in schools, and interning to become a child psychiatric nurse practitioner. She is a kind person, works hard and is often anxious and hyperactive, allot of stress in her life, somewhat overweight. Tongue is swollen and wet, reddish in the center, pale. Pulse is weak overall, especially in spleen and two kidney positions. TCM Pattern: Deficient kidney Qi, blood stagnation lower burner, cold and deficient spleen. History of many years of chronic pain from endometiosis, 2 laporoscopic surgeries. Chronic sinus infections, treated with herbs for past few years, antibiotics before that. IBS with chronic bloating and pain in abdomen, tender around navel. Cold easily, especially lower abdomen. She eats a good diet with cooked grains, vegetables and protein. She is aggravated by raw foods. She had constant pelvic pain from endometriosis, with a respite from day 8-10, and day 15-17. 24-26 day cycle. She uses Chinese herbs for pain, along with castor oil compresses. She uses anaprox for 4-6 days before and 4 days during menses. Meds: natural progesterone 200 mg from mid cycle to day 1., armour thyroid, low dose sinequan for IBS. Her gut is sensitive to herbs and it has been tricky finding a formula that does not aggravate the IBS. After 3-4 years of using yan hu suo, bai shao and gan cao combination very successfully for pain, her blood pressure is now 140/80. She is currently taking this formula for pain: 20 grams yan hu suo, 10 g. Mu Xiang, 20 g. Jaing Huang, 5 g. Chi Shao Yao, 5 g. Rou Gui, 4 g. Sheng Jiang, 3 g. Fu Zi, and finds this effective for pain. She is also taking Gui Zhi Fu Ling Wan with Bai Zhu and Fu Ling, which she is tolerating ok for now. I have now seen her regularly for the past year, and she is showing more fluid retention. My patient would describe herself as doing allot better in terms of managing her pain than she was several years ago. I am hoping for an early menopause! I am very concerned that she has been having the high blood pressure for a year and is just now telling me about it. Does this information give you some idea of her prognosis around being about to return to normal blood pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 Blood pressure sx should rapidly disappear with withdrawal of gan cao if that is the cause. But how about pu gong ying in the formula? Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. " The unfortunate thing about this world is that the good habits are much easier to give up than the bad ones. " W. Somerset Maugham ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2000 Report Share Posted November 17, 2000 To Zev and others regarding my patient with high blood pressureassociated with long term use of gan cao:>>>What was the dose of gan cao. Also why are you assuming that the bp is due to the gan cao alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 on 11/17/00 9:18 PM, alonmarcus at alonmarcus wrote: To Zev and others regarding my patient with high blood pressure associated with long term use of gan cao: >>>What was the dose of gan cao. Also why are you assuming that the bp is due to the gan cao alon Perhaps it was the wording of my e-mail. . . .but I did not mean to assume that the high BP was automatically caused by the use of gan cao. As you point out, dosage is a factor. In addition, the amount of time taken by the patient, the patient's constitution and pattern diagnosis, the preparation of the medicinals is crucial. Also, any medications being used, possible drug interactions, etc. It is simply one factor that long term use of gan cao at a high dosage may influence a tendency to high blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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