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zrosenberg@e...> wrote:

 

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> I have tried to absorb the information on wu yun liu qi/five periods six qi

> in these sections by reading them over and over.. . .they are difficult, but

> they are sinking in as I observe seasonal changes in my practice, as per

> symptoms, pulse pictures, and trends in disease patterns. (By the way,

> Unschuld's '' has an excellent chapter on five periods/six

> qi theory). I also use the 'open points' calendar in my practice, focusing

> more on the 24 hr clock and extraordinary vessel aspects.

>

while li dong yuan made much use of wu yun liu qi, his follower zhu dan

xi does not seem to give it much stock, nor do many more recent CM

physicians. I wonder why this is so?

 

todd

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on 11/23/00 11:41 PM, at wrote:

 

 

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> while li dong yuan made much use of wu yun liu qi, his follower zhu dan

> xi does not seem to give it much stock, nor do many more recent CM

> physicians. I wonder why this is so?

>

> todd

 

While I am hardly a historian, I can only speculate that in the translations

I have seen, it appears that Li Dong-yuan used acupuncture, which was more

in tune with wu yun liu qi, whereas there is no evidence that Zhu Dan-xi

practiced acupuncture. Also, not everything physicians did is in print. It

would be interesting to research this question, however.

 

 

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zrosenberg@e...> wrote:

 

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it appears that Li Dong-yuan used acupuncture, which was more

> in tune with wu yun liu qi, whereas there is no evidence that Zhu Dan-xi

> practiced acupuncture.

 

so is the wu yun liu qi considered widely applicable to herbology or

not? I suspect it is this aspect of li's work that makes it still so

controversial amongst modern px (as Greg Bantick indicated in an

earlier post), rather than the yin fire theory.

 

Also, not everything physicians did is in print. It

> would be interesting to research this question, however.

 

 

No doubt, but zhu did seem to write down everything he thought was

important. It would be strange that he glossed over this with no

mention if he actually practiced it.

 

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