Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Has anyone heard of this, can you help? Chief complaint breast discharge, started 2 wks ago black with green twinge, watery consistency, tastes sweet ("husband") was itchy in the beginning. She miked them occasionally to assist in elimination. No pain. Discharge stopped 2 days ago, 2 days before period. Medical History (Not sure how relevant) Type 5 cervical cancer (1983) treated with laser therap History of moderate candida in intestines, vaginal discharges Years of stress (family issues) History of headaches, all kinds Drank diet coke for yrs (got rid of headaches) Stopped coke a few mths ago at my suggestion, when she came in to see if I could do anything for peridontal diseases, (with big holes in her gums underneath the teeth) Uterine cysts removed recently Minimal dairy, now, no alcohol, decaf coffee rarely, eats lots of vegetables some meat. Questioning exam eyes-light sensitive, ears "click", no urination difficulties, no sex drive, Menses regular, but spotting to light flow, pasty brown -sometimes bright red blood, with "fleshy tissue" pms; mood swings, heavy tender breasts, no lumps, right ovary painful upon ovulation stabbing pain in rectum when sleeping Digestion-"appetite quite normal, hungry when hungry, bowels loose but not loose" normal thirst for tepid drinks, temp warm to hotter, rarely sweats-cold and clammy, only with anxiety) sleeping well energy better, 6-7/10 Often complains of her equilibrium being off Felt bored with life for a long time, now has an interesting job. Pulse Faint, deep, weak, almost undedectable Tongue Moderate spleen marks, moderate coating at back, whitish, reddish sides, pale body Patterns spleen def with dampness liver qi stagnation, liver blood def blood stagnation in lower jiao kidney def Some herb possibilites si jun zi tang, xiao yao wan xiang fu, chen pi, ji xue teng, dan shen, wang bu liu xing, sheng di huang, huang qin, yin chen hao, pu gong yin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 , " Marjorie Davidson " < mdavid@u...> wrote: > Has anyone heard of this, can you help? > > Chief complaint > breast discharge, tastes sweet ( " husband " ) You've got to be kidding. I never cease to be amazed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 How old is she? Any pregnancies? I assume she has not given birth recently, but look for other prolactin stimulants. Any Stomach channel issues? Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. " A failure is a man who has blundered, but is not able to cash in on the experience. " --Elbert Hubbard ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 " Karen S Vaughan " Re: Breast discharge > How old is she? Any pregnancies? I assume she has not given birth > recently, but look for other prolactin stimulants. > > Any Stomach channel issues? Thanks for your attention Karen, She is 40 yrs old and has an 18yr old and 12yr old twins. The only stomach channel symptom would be the eye sensitivity which usually only comes with the headaches. She did start a course of vitamins when she learned of the peridontal disease last summer including; usana multi vitamin, multi mineral, mega AO supplement with CoQ10, extra vit E, extra Co Q10, Vit C, and she did bluegreen algae for 2 wks but this has been a few months now. Otherwise no dietary changes. The only prolactin stimulants I could find of were fenugreek, oatmeal and beer and she does none of those, any other clues? I wonder if the sweet black watery liquid could have anything to do with discharging of the diet coke she drank over the yrs? Maybe her husband could expound upon the taste. Marjorie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 , " Marjorie Davidson " < mdavid@u...> wrote: > > Patterns > spleen def with dampness > liver qi stagnation, liver blood def > blood stagnation in lower jiao > kidney def I would think dampheat is present with hx of candida, vaginal disharge and the quality of the breast discharge. What type of kidney xu do you suspect and what sx justify it. Are you planning to use all the herbs you suggest? They all look like they can be justified but I think it should be pared down to a reasonable size rx. > > Some herb possibilites > si jun zi tang, xiao yao wan Si jun zi tang plus xiao yao wan starts to look a lot like bu zhong yi qi tang. I like the dan shen and the dampheat herbs, too. But I might start with just that. A current bias on my part,though. Some folks like 18 herb formulas. > xiang fu, chen pi, ji xue teng, dan shen, wang bu liu xing, > sheng di huang, huang qin, yin chen hao, pu gong yin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2001 Report Share Posted January 25, 2001 > >Chief complaint > >breast discharge, started 2 wks ago black with green twinge, watery > consistency, tastes sweet ( " husband " ) Alisa Wrinkle wrote; > This condition should be evaluated by a western medical practitioner. > Breast discharge can indicate a tumor of the pituitary or other endocrine > disorders. > She did have a neck injury during gymnastics as a teenager, and as a matter of fact, she was put on medication at that time for a blocked pituitary gland. By age 16-17yrs old the symptoms had gone away. She was taken off the medication. 3 yrs ago they came back...(brought on by stress) pain in the eyes, light refraction, spots in the vision,tension in the occiput, neck and shoulders, migraine headaches, continuous nausea, clicking in the ears (that and low sex drive were the only kidney symtoms I could come up with), plugged around the ear, more specifically tonsil (right side), almost like a sore throat, especially tender around feng chi on the left side and equilibrium is off.. I treated her with herbs and acu 2yrs ago for the migraines, and although the migraines disappeared, and other symptoms lessened, as I mentioned in the first post, she still has occasional headaches of different descriptions. So this is very interesting, the blocked pituitary gland syndrome reappearing? She was not excited about going to a western doctor but I'm sure she will if I ask her too. If it turns out to be a tumour of the pituitary, would anyone recommend this being treated with herbs? Once again, thank you for your feedback, it is much appreciated Marjorie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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