Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 on 2/2/01 2:51 PM, Garry Seifert at seifert wrote: > I think that what often happens in cancer of all kinds is that heat toxins > damage the zheng qi and yin without resolving. When the zheng qi is depleted > it cannot fight the heat toxins so there are symptoms of vacuity, but also > there are still underlying replete pathogens. Using kidney tonics helps > patients feel better but doesn't really get to the root problem. I think it > better to use large (about 30 gram) doses of herbs like bai hua she she cao, > zi hua di ding, and in breast cancer pu gong ying to clear heat and resolve > toxins. > > These herbs are not traditionally considered to strengthen zheng qi, but > from a bio-medical point of view they are immuno-stimulating. > > Both bai hua she she cao, zi hua di ding are really good at clearing heat > and resolving toxins. Pu gong ying not only resolves toxins but also > scatters qi accumulations. It is particularly good when heat toxins cause qi > swelling of the breasts (and/or lymph nodes), plus which it also clears > phlegm heat from the upper burner, disinhibits dampness and promotes its > downward circulation (it has diuretic properties). These medicinals are pretty standard in Chinese treatment of cancer patients, and I certainly support their use when appropriate. However, cancer is a group of diseases, each with many stages. There are situations where cancer patients manifest with spleen qi xu damp and/or cold, and these medicinals may not be appropriate. There may be other times where Liu Bao-yi's approach of outthrusting the pathogen from the ying and xue aspects to the qi aspect and precipitating the bowels (I believe you call this the thoroughclear method in your book, " Warm Disease Theory " ) may also be appropriate. If there is anything I've learned in treating cancer patients, it is to expect the unexpected, and treat accordingly. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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