Help with a script

[Guest guest]

Tongue is red, no coat,many cracks

- including a very deep central crack (For several weeks the tongue was

lavender.)

Pulse is 65 and Surging - but forceless.

(Has been rapid - 90 and forceful - I assume due to the albuterol.)

 

..

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

 

Can you explain surging but forceless?

 

-Jason

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am unsure what the ‘full’ means here.. but your description sounds like

the Chinese “xu”(1) mai.. Hong (2) mai (in Chinese) is forceful at all levels

(esp. the superficial) and wiseman

says “arrival is longer and more forceful than the departure…” - if the full is in reference to the

tightness(?) then maybe ge(2) mai. But these kind of clarifications are

important.. If one says hong mai, I think excess pulse.. but from your description

I get the impression of a xu. So

for some clarity I assume Japanese uses pulse names differently? Just some thoughts, other opinions?…

 

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Mark Thompson

[mthompson]

Wednesday, February 14, 2001

11:28 AM

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Re:

Help with a script

 

I'm trying to use standard terms -

forgive me, I do mostly Japanese acupuncture with Hara palpation -

" Hong Mai " floating, large, full, but when pressed deeper it

becomes forceless.

 

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Wednesday, February 14,

2001 2:09 AM

RE:

Help with a script

 

 

Tongue is red, no coat,many cracks - including a very deep

central crack (For several weeks the tongue was lavender.)

Pulse is 65 and Surging - but forceless. (Has been rapid - 90 and

forceful - I assume due to the albuterol.)

 

..

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

 

Can you explain surging but forceless?

 

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[Guest guest]

I'm a new practitioner and working in a very rural area. I welcome ideas/suggestions for this challenging (for me) patient:

 

57 y/o male with c/o asthma, urinary dysfunction, cataracts (in this order)

 

S/S: Difficulty with inhalation and exhalation. There is not a lot of consistency with factors that trigger attacks: i.e.: sometimes smoke from the woodstove, sometimes cold, sometimes steam after a hot shower, physical labor, stress...occasionally a particular food - maybe. He describes two types of attacks: difficulty breathing followed by a sense that his body "goes limp". The other type is one in which his throat is blocked by mucus - which he cannot expel - but which causes wheezing and difficulty breathing and panic. This usually leads to use of his albuterol inhaler.

 

Urinary frequency, urgency, trouble starting stream, slow stream ,dribbling afterward. Urine is clear to light yellow. Premature ejaculation, sometimes severe pain in the testicles with ejaculation. Elevated PSA. All of these symptoms vary in frequency and duration.

 

Cataracts forming in both eyes, floaters, decreasing visual acuity.

 

He states his energy is good,sleeps well (unless waking frequently to urinate), digestion is "OK" - tends to have slightly loose stool, but eats lots of raw foods.

Dry mouth, not thirsty.

 

Pulse and tongue change dramatically depending on how frequently he uses his inhaler.

 

Acupuncture 1x week x 6 weeks has changed the asthma symptoms. He is now, not using

the albuterol. He is using Severin inhaler 1x every two days.

 

Tongue is red, no coat,many cracks - including a very deep central crack (For several weeks the tongue was lavender.)

Pulse is 65 and Surging - but forceless. (Has been rapid - 90 and forceful - I assume due to the albuterol.)

 

I know this is basic stuff for all of you, but I'd appreciate the help and will learn a lot from your responses.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm trying to use standard terms - forgive me, I do mostly Japanese acupuncture with Hara palpation - "Hong Mai" floating, large, full, but when pressed deeper it becomes forceless.

 

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Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:09 AM

RE: Help with a script

 

 

 

Tongue is red, no coat,many cracks - including a very deep central crack (For several weeks the tongue was lavender.)

Pulse is 65 and Surging - but forceless. (Has been rapid - 90 and forceful - I assume due to the albuterol.)

 

..

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

 

Can you explain surging but forceless?

 

-

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.