Eight Extra Vessel pulses

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Dear friends,

 

I am signing up from my home email address so I may participate more fully. I have been following Nan Jing pulse styles and studying the Eight extra vessels for twenty years. During the nineties I was a senior teacher of the Hammer system. I am currently the Den of Clinical Education at Emperor's College of TOM and teach seminars on pulse diagnosis.

 

Here are some highlites from my experience and study. The qualities are those recorded by Li Zhishen and Wang Shuhe.

 

 

Will Morris

 

Eight Extra Vessel pulse principles

They show the relationship of positions to each other

They can be recorded in the section regarding sides

 

A few findings from clinical observation:

1. They are always present

2. Changes:

a. they can bedifferent on one side or the other

b. they can bedifferent at varying depths

c. they changewhen the amplitude is changing

3. When they are the same everywhere and consistently, it isa compelling reason to use an Eight extra channel or the related herbs. 4. They are an efficient method of recording an image on oneside clearly and concisely, thus they should be recorded under side.

5. They show relationship of positions to each other.Different from qualities or positions or sections, these images provide abackdrop of information that is not rendered available through 'typical'pulse taking methods. Herbs for the eight extras:

(http://bluepoppy.com/press/download/articles/ye-vessels.htmlpuncture.comhas Bob Flaw's translation of Ye Tian-shi's use of herbs forEight extra vessels and http://www.acupuncture.com/Herbology/Eight.htm has TianDe Yang's translation of Li Shi-shen's)

[Guest guest]

Hi Will

Could you just confirm that the translation of the herbs of the

8 extras on acup.com by Tian De Yang were originally from Li Shi

Zhens classic . Was his the first book to mention herbs and 8 extras.

Sorry I don't follow whats been said about the points you outlined.

In simplified terms do you feel for a yin wei mai pulse in the heart position

for example or it in some special place.

Heiko

WMorris116 wrote:

Dear friends,

I am signing up from my home

email address so I may participate more fully. I

have been following Nan

Jing pulse styles and studying the Eight extra

vessels for twenty years.

During the nineties I was a senior teacher of the

Hammer system. I am currently

the Den of Clinical Education at Emperor's

College of TOM and teach

seminars on pulse diagnosis.

Here are some highlites from

my experience and study. The qualities are those

recorded by Li Zhishen and

Wang Shuhe.

 

Will Morris

Eight Extra Vessel pulse

principles

 

They show the relationship

of positions to each other

They can be recorded in the

section regarding sides

A few findings from clinical

observation:

1. They are always present

2. Changes:

a. they can

bedifferent on one side or the other

b. they can

bedifferent at varying depths

c. they changewhen

the amplitude is changing

3. When they are the same

everywhere and consistently, it isa compelling

reason to use an Eight extra

channel or the related herbs.

4. They are an efficient

method of recording an image on oneside clearly and

concisely, thus they should

be recorded under side.

5. They show relationship

of positions to each other.Different from

qualities or positions or

sections, these images provide abackdrop of

information that is not

rendered available through 'typical'pulse taking

methods.

Herbs for the eight extras:

(http://bluepoppy.com/press/download/articles/ye-vessels.htmlpuncture.comhas

Bob Flaw's translation of

Ye Tian-shi's use of herbs forEight extra vessels

and http://www.acupuncture.com/Herbology/Eight.htm

has TianDe Yang's

translation of Li Shi-shen's)

 

 

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