Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 In a message dated 3/18/01 6:25:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, herbbabe writes: > So now, can you help me understand your use of tian man dong- which is > cloying and freezing cold IBS? Cara: I have had a relationship of consumption with this herb for 20 years and disagree with the very cold estimation in the texts (maybe it is relative to other tonics). The cloying aspect is dose dependent, it is still very light compared to Di Huang. As far as IBS, there would have to be Yin Shu present during the constipation phase, or it can be used in small doses as a guide into the Stomach. It is contraindicated for Spleen Qi Shu, Yang Shu or external cold attack. Virtually the same material (Asparagi racemoses) is called Shatavari in Ayurvedic medicine and is used for females extensively. In this system it is contraindicated for phlegm conditions. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2001 Report Share Posted March 18, 2001 > Cara: > > I have had a relationship of consumption with this herb for 20 years and > disagree with the very cold estimation in the texts (maybe it is relative to > other tonics). The cloying aspect is dose dependent, it is still very light > compared to Di Huang. As far as IBS, there would have to be Yin Shu present > during the constipation phase, or it can be used in small doses as a guide > into the Stomach. It is contraindicated for Spleen Qi Shu, Yang Shu or > external cold attack. Virtually the same material (Asparagi racemoses) is > called Shatavari in Ayurvedic medicine and is used for females extensively. > In this system it is contraindicated for phlegm conditions. > > Will Will, I had a similar consumption last year preparing for the OM2000 conference. I did a day on digestive disorders, where I sang the praises of the small intestine. My focus on that day ( and on many other days) was the yin of the St and the SI: and the use of wet, cool yin tonics to regenerate the mucosal lining of the St. and create a kind of yin cushion in the gut for probiotics to flourish. But I think that while Shu di is harder to digest, tian men dong is definitely cooler. kind of a purer wet. And in thinking it over in the moment- it probably is the coldest of the tonics. Cara Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 I had a similar consumption last year preparing for the OM2000conference. I did a day on digestive disorders, where I sang the praises ofthe small intestine. My focus on that day ( and on many other days) was theyin of the St and the SI: and the use of wet, cool yin tonics to regeneratethe mucosal lining of the St. and create a kind of yin cushion in the gutfor probiotics to flourish.>>>>This is a common practice in China for atrophic gastritis based on scoping Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 > alonmarcus wrote: > > I had a similar consumption last year preparing for the OM2000 > conference. I did a day on digestive disorders, where I sang the > praises of > the small intestine. My focus on that day ( and on many other days) > was the > yin of the St and the SI: and the use of wet, cool yin tonics to > regenerate > the mucosal lining of the St. and create a kind of yin cushion in the > gut > for probiotics to flourish. Isn't the small intestine more of a urine producing organ where as the Stomach and Large intestines are more implicated for " intestinal " or digestive tract disharmonies? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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