Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Karen, it definitely looks like a formula to me -- Will In a message dated 4/27/01 6:33:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, creationsgarden writes: Anyone recognize this as a formula? Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, Ligus Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen as an emulsifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at $90 per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a formula? CONTENTS: Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, Ligus Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen as an emulsifier. (15 drops sublingual on an empty stomach 45 minutes before intimacy) The site also offers the " ever so sedate, sensitive " loose leaf Artemesia capillaris/Yin chen hao at $60 for two ounces for " happy smoking " ! Must be in the wrong end of the herb business... Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. In a dark time, the eye begins to see. " -- Theodore Roethke ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 " Karen, it definitely looks like a formula to me -- Will " Well, yeah Will. But do you recognize it? Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. In a dark time, the eye begins to see. " -- Theodore Roethke ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 I have always been curious as to what fo ti is ( fo ti tien) . I remember about 20 years ago reading about as a wonder Chinese herb for long life etc. I saw pictures of the herb wrapped up with the Chinese characters of fu zi on it. Health food shops in Sydney used to sell it , I can't say what it looked like, but it was no Chinese herb that I ever saw. Can anyone enlighten me? I have concluded it was a fictitious made up herb designed by western herb wholesalers. Heiko Karen S Vaughan wrote: > Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at $90 > per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a > formula? > > CONTENTS: > > Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, > Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, > Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, > Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, > Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, > Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, > Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, Ligus > Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing > 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen as > an emulsifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 I've always understood fo ti to be he shou wu. Kristin - Heiko Lade <heiko Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:28 AM Re: Herbal aphrodesiac > I have always been curious as to what fo ti is ( fo ti tien) . I remember about 20 years ago reading about as a wonder Chinese herb for long life etc. I saw pictures of the herb wrapped up with the Chinese characters of fu zi on it. Health food shops in Sydney used to sell it , > I can't say what it looked like, but it was no Chinese herb that I ever saw. > > Can anyone enlighten me? I have concluded it was a fictitious made up herb designed by western herb wholesalers. > > > Heiko > > Karen S Vaughan wrote: > > > Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at $90 > > per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a > > formula? > > > > CONTENTS: > > > > Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, > > Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, > > Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, > > Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, > > Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, > > Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, > > Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, Ligus > > Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing > > 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen as > > an emulsifier. > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 , <kwisgirda@n...> wrote: > I've always understood fo ti to be he shou wu. > > Kristin > > As I understand it, fo-ti was amde up name for marketing purposes that was used for at least two herbs. I believe it was usually he shou wu, but sometimes the ayurvedic gotu kola. It often appeared leafy like the latter and HSW is a root. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 " Fo ti tieng " used to be sold to health food stores as an herb along with the usual ones such as ginger, fenugreek, etc. I used to order it almost 30 years ago at my health food store in Colorado. I remember clearly that what I really got was chuan xiong/ligusticum wallichi (I figured it out later on). I used to eat the slices like candy. On Friday, April 27, 2001, at 11:28 PM, Heiko Lade wrote: > I have always been curious as to what fo ti is ( fo ti tien) . I > remember about 20 years ago reading about as a wonder Chinese herb for > long life etc. I saw pictures of the herb wrapped up with the Chinese > characters of fu zi on it. Health food shops in Sydney used to sell it , > I can't say what it looked like, but it was no Chinese herb that I > ever saw. > > Can anyone enlighten me? I have concluded it was a fictitious made up > herb designed by western herb wholesalers. > > > Heiko > > Karen S Vaughan wrote: > >> Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at >> $90 >> per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a >> formula? >> >> CONTENTS: >> >> Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, >> Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, >> Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, >> Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, >> Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, >> Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, >> Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, >> Ligus >> Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing >> 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen >> as >> an emulsifier. > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 I also used to but fo ti tien in Sydney ..........it wasn't he shou wu or chuan xiong.Who knows what it was?...............maybe guang mu tong!! Heiko wrote: > " Fo ti tieng " used to be sold to health food stores as an herb along > with the usual ones such as ginger, fenugreek, etc. I used to order it > almost 30 years ago at my health food store in Colorado. I remember > clearly that what I really got was chuan xiong/ligusticum wallichi (I > figured it out later on). I used to eat the slices like candy. > > > On Friday, April 27, 2001, at 11:28 PM, Heiko Lade wrote: > > > I have always been curious as to what fo ti is ( fo ti tien) . I > > remember about 20 years ago reading about as a wonder Chinese herb for > > long life etc. I saw pictures of the herb wrapped up with the Chinese > > characters of fu zi on it. Health food shops in Sydney used to sell it , > > I can't say what it looked like, but it was no Chinese herb that I > > ever saw. > > > > Can anyone enlighten me? I have concluded it was a fictitious made up > > herb designed by western herb wholesalers. > > > > > > Heiko > > > > Karen S Vaughan wrote: > > > >> Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at > >> $90 > >> per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a > >> formula? > >> > >> CONTENTS: > >> > >> Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, > >> Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, > >> Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, > >> Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, > >> Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, > >> Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, > >> Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, > >> Ligus > >> Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing > >> 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen > >> as > >> an emulsifier. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > > education. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 I don't know if this is any help but the " Yoga of Herbs " (David Frawley, Vasant Lad) talks of fo ti being polygonium multiflorum (i.e he shou wu) - which they say is the msot important Chinese rejuvenative herb. ---------- >Heiko Lade <heiko > >Re: Herbal aphrodesiac >Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:28 > >I have always been curious as to what fo ti is ( fo ti tien) . I remember >about 20 years ago reading about as a wonder Chinese herb for long life >etc. I saw pictures of the herb wrapped up with the Chinese characters of >fu zi on it. Health food shops in Sydney used to sell it , >I can't say what it looked like, but it was no Chinese herb that I ever saw. > >Can anyone enlighten me? I have concluded it was a fictitious made up herb >designed by western herb wholesalers. > > >Heiko > >Karen S Vaughan wrote: > >> Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at $90 >> per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a >> formula? >> >> CONTENTS: >> >> Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, >> Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, >> Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, >> Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, >> Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, >> Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, >> Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, Ligus >> Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing >> 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen as >> an emulsifier. > > > > > >Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare >practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics >specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional >services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 I have seen that entry, and most sources I've seen say fo ti is/was he shou wu. . . .but, again, I was shipped chuan xiong way back when I owned that health food store. Andy Ellis? Any comments? On Sunday, April 29, 2001, at 01:24 AM, R.L.Westenra wrote: > I don't know if this is any help but the " Yoga of Herbs " (David Frawley, > Vasant Lad) talks of > fo ti being polygonium multiflorum (i.e he shou wu) - which they say is > the > msot important Chinese rejuvenative herb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Thanks Robin I would have to agree that HSW is a pretty good rejuvination herb.Too bad its a bit too greasy and cloying sx. Heiko R.L.Westenra wrote: > I don't know if this is any help but the " Yoga of Herbs " (David Frawley, > Vasant Lad) talks of > fo ti being polygonium multiflorum (i.e he shou wu) - which they say is the > msot important Chinese rejuvenative herb. > ---------- > >Heiko Lade <heiko > > > >Re: Herbal aphrodesiac > >Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:28 > > > > >I have always been curious as to what fo ti is ( fo ti tien) . I remember > >about 20 years ago reading about as a wonder Chinese herb for long life > >etc. I saw pictures of the herb wrapped up with the Chinese characters of > >fu zi on it. Health food shops in Sydney used to sell it , > >I can't say what it looked like, but it was no Chinese herb that I ever saw. > > > >Can anyone enlighten me? I have concluded it was a fictitious made up herb > >designed by western herb wholesalers. > > > > > >Heiko > > > >Karen S Vaughan wrote: > > > >> Got the following in a commercial email for an herbal aphrodesiac (at $90 > >> per ounce tincture introductory price!) Anyone recognize this as a > >> formula? > >> > >> CONTENTS: > >> > >> Whole MaHuang, Bee Pollen, Epimedium Angelica, Rehmannia, Ginger, > >> Schizandra, Polygonatum, Adenophora, Tremella, Tang Kuei, Reishi, > >> Codonopsis, Eucommium, Lycii Berry, Ligusticum, Peony Root, Fo Ti, > >> Atractylodes, Ophiopogon, Royal Jelly, Euryales Seeds, Poria, Licorice, > >> Mountain Peony Bark, Cormi Fruit, Rose Hips, Prince Ginseng, > >> Scrophularia, Alisma, Astragalus, Fennel, Buplerium, Cypera, Aconite, > >> Polygala, Red Sage Root, Jujube Seed, Lotus Seed, Tien Chi Ginseng, Ligus > >> Ticum, Psoralea, Dodder Seed, and Cisthanches in a solution containing > >> 24% pure grain alcohol as a preservative, distilled water and Lecithen as > >> an emulsifier. > > > > > > > > > > > >Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare > >practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics > >specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional > >services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 < " Karen, it definitely looks like a formula to me -- Will " Well, yeah Will. But do you recognize it?> Guess humor doesn't always transmit through e-space....especially if it is cynical.....the answer is no. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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