Digest Number 572

[Guest guest]

" We have a professor here at PCOM who is very big on

making essence xu dx in people of all ages and he often prescribes

strong tonics with impressive results. "

 

Tell us some more about this. I know its not you but I find that although I

often (well, occassionally) make the diagnosis, I am curious as to how others

treat it. What herbs, etc... Issues of heat and cloying in tonics... those type

of things.

 

doug

 

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[Guest guest]

Yes this is an interesting topic. I have a question in reference to jing xu and

the tongue.

According to Giovanni and Kirschbaum ( are many people in the US using her book

?) a jing xu tongue appears as a depression or hollowness at the root of the

tongue.

 

Kirshbaum does have one example of a before and after Tx and the tongue is jing

xu among other things , however after 6 months of weekly acupuncture the tongue

and symptom picture has changed but not the jing xu depression.

 

At our college at the moment the students are treating a mother and daughter

both with a constitutional jing xu .....bad memory , premature grey hair etc,

and chronic sinus.Weekly acupuncture (no herbs) is helping the symptoms but the

students asked will the empty jing space ever

fill up? This I couldn't answer , through lack of experience

and patients usually dropping out treatment as symptoms improve.

 

Has anyone out there ever reversed a jing xu tongue?

 

 

 

wrote:

 

> " We have a professor here at PCOM who is very big on

> making essence xu dx in people of all ages and he often prescribes

> strong tonics with impressive results. "

>

> Tell us some more about this. I know its not you but I find that although I

often (well, occassionally) make the diagnosis, I am curious as to how others

treat it. What herbs, etc... Issues of heat and cloying in tonics... those type

of things.

>

> doug

>

>

[Guest guest]

Heiko Lade wrote:

 

> According to Giovanni and Kirschbaum ( are many people in the US using her

book ?)

 

Yes, I like it very much. Excellent photography for a change.

 

The problem with shooting tongues is that if the light quality or film

quality changes, you really can't get a sense of what is pale, what is

pink, what is red, and so forth.

 

It seems that in this Kirschbaum, all the images were taken with the

same light source, the same film, and the same other parameters. These

are good images that a student, or a practitioner can really learn from.

 

My only criticism of the book is that the pale and pink colors are

difficult to differentiate. However, orange comes out well and all the

other parameters are very clear to me.

 

 

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.