longivety tonics

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Tonic abuse

 

I was taught that when you see those old Chinese women who are actually

half bald, ie the hair is missing from the front half..........is due to

them taking too many tonics .

 

I also remember when I used to work from a Chinese medicine shop in

Sydney........the guys there would regularly tonic themselves up on eg

30 grams of double steamed American ginseng.....they were aged in their

40's.........the next day they always presented with headaches for which

they took panadol. They never believed me the headache came from the

yang shen.

 

Heiko

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, Heiko Lade <heiko@l...> wrote:

 

>

> I also remember when I used to work from a Chinese medicine shop in

> Sydney........the guys there would regularly tonic themselves up on eg

> 30 grams of double steamed American ginseng.....they were aged in their

> 40's.........the next day they always presented with headaches for which

> they took panadol. They never believed me the headache came from the

> yang shen.

>

> Heiko

 

I find that most 40 year olds have signs of xu and shi. I think

perhaps the bad effects of tonics may be related to high dosage (jeez,

40 g of ginseng is ten times the medicinal dose). also, taking tonics

when there is lots of excess just tonifies the excess. I wonder if it

makes a diff if you have cleared the excess first or concurrently,

would there be side effects.

 

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Todd wrote

" . I wonder if it

makes a diff if you have cleared the excess first or concurrently,

would there be side effects. "

 

I think certainly it makes a difference .If we look at some Li Shi

Zhen's long life type tonic pills for example , I am sure those taoists

taking them had no excess damp and heat or phelgm or stuck blood but had

restored their health to optimum before supplementing their jing etc.

 

An interesting combination from LSZ was just 2 herbs.....fu ling and

xiang fu.

 

Heiko