Prognosticators unite!

[Guest guest]

Prognosis.

 

It just slips right off the tongue, doesn't it? But it can also land

with a thud.

 

Trying to articulate what goes into the making of a meaningful and

accurate prognosis is proving a very difficult job. In fact, I can't

even find the word appearing in the indices of my textbooks.

 

There are a few things that I can point to to create a prognosis, but my

list is woefully short. I'm going to describe a few of the components

that I use and would very much appreciate any additions to this list...

 

There's a rule of thumb... for every year you've had a pathology, it

will take one month to fix it. So, a six year pathology can take six

months to fix.

 

Excess-type pathologies are quicker to respond than deficiencies.

 

Acute pathologies are quicker to respond than chronic.

 

Young persons tend to respond quicker than elderly.

 

Exterior conditions resolve quicker than internal pathologies?

 

Can anybody add anything to this list? Just some general concepts that

go into the making of a prognosis.

 

Thanx.

 

--

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

[Guest guest]

Here's my two cents re: prognosis -

 

Physical ailments that are actually physical in nature are faster to treat

than physical ailments that have a strong emotional component.

 

I was treating a woman, I thought successfully, for a cough she has had for

four years. She has not told her physician husband that she's seeing an

acupuncturist. She was getting better for three weeks and had a relapse.

With some additional probing, I have discovered some emotional baggage that

she was not initially comfortable telling me, so now I am treating it as an

emotional condition.

 

Jeff

 

(Another example...a woman coming to me for smoking cessation. When asked

what her predominant emotion was, she responded " HATE! " Necessarily, I will

be seeing her a few times more than I normally see patients seeking to stop

smoking.

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Hi Al

 

In school I was taught " Always! Always! Always! First remove the excess. "

It worked some of the time. Acouple of years ago I attended a presenttaion

by Bob Flaws at which this precept came up. He said that there 's a second

half to the precept which is " ...unless there is deficiency. " I changed my

treatment strategy and began nourishing the deficiencies first and the

results have been much better than prior to getting the rest of the story.

 

I had a patient with what looked like organic peanut butter (thick and shiny

like a still lake covering his entire tongue. He also had night sweats and

five palm heat. Clearing the phlegm was slow and frustrating so I consulted

one of my teachers. He recommended tonifying the yin. After some

convincing, I tried it. The thick coat cleared up in a week.

 

So I suggest " Always! Always! Always! First remove the excess; unless

deficiency is present. "

 

JOE

[Guest guest]

Why wouldn't you do both at once?

 

Jim Ramholz

 

 

 

 

, " Joseph Balensi " <jlb@t...> wrote:

> Hi Al

>

> In school I was taught " Always! Always! Always! First remove the

excess. "

> It worked some of the time. Acouple of years ago I attended a

presenttaion

> by Bob Flaws at which this precept came up. He said that there 's

a second

> half to the precept which is " ...unless there is deficiency. " I

changed my

> treatment strategy and began nourishing the deficiencies first and

the

> results have been much better than prior to getting the rest of the

story.

>

> I had a patient with what looked like organic peanut butter (thick

and shiny

> like a still lake covering his entire tongue. He also had night

sweats and

> five palm heat. Clearing the phlegm was slow and frustrating so I

consulted

> one of my teachers. He recommended tonifying the yin. After some

> convincing, I tried it. The thick coat cleared up in a week.

>

> So I suggest " Always! Always! Always! First remove the excess;

unless

> deficiency is present. "

>

> JOE

[Guest guest]

Exactly... I was taught ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS take the whole picture into

consideration to be able to acurately make a diagnosis and then a treatment

plan. Depending on the complexity of the simultaneous patterns (transmuted

patterns, knotty diseases, etc.), treating only one aspect of a complicated

picture seems to me to be aiming at simplicity.

Kip Roseman

 

 

> [Original Message]

> <jramholz

>

> 5/20/01 1:23:56 AM

> Re: Prognosticators unite!

>

> Why wouldn't you do both at once?

>

> Jim Ramholz

>

>

>

>

> , " Joseph Balensi " <jlb@t...> wrote:

> > Hi Al

> >

> > In school I was taught " Always! Always! Always! First remove the

> excess. "

> > It worked some of the time. Acouple of years ago I attended a

> presenttaion

> > by Bob Flaws at which this precept came up. He said that there 's

> a second

> > half to the precept which is " ...unless there is deficiency. " I

> changed my

> > treatment strategy and began nourishing the deficiencies first and

> the

> > results have been much better than prior to getting the rest of the

> story.

> >

> > I had a patient with what looked like organic peanut butter (thick

> and shiny

> > like a still lake covering his entire tongue. He also had night

> sweats and

> > five palm heat. Clearing the phlegm was slow and frustrating so I

> consulted

> > one of my teachers. He recommended tonifying the yin. After some

> > convincing, I tried it. The thick coat cleared up in a week.

> >

> > So I suggest " Always! Always! Always! First remove the excess;

> unless

> > deficiency is present. "

> >

> > JOE

>

>

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