Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Here's an interesting question... A guy in Norway wrote to me and is trying to come up with a means by which drunkiness can be treated at the bar where drinking takes place. Are there any herbs or protocols that would stimulate a quicker action of sobering up? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Al, I'm only a one or two beer type myself but Pill Curing seems to work as well as anything else I've seen for the after-effects of drinking too much. I'm not sure if it will improve driving capability. I would try adding Armillaria in higher amounts to the formula and see if it works. It shouldn't be too difficult to find test subjects. You could run a pilot study by setting up cones in a large parking lot next to a bar at 1AM. Al Stone [alstone] Monday, May 21, 2001 12:06 PM Chinese Herbal Medicine Sober-up herbs? Here's an interesting question... A guy in Norway wrote to me and is trying to come up with a means by which drunkiness can be treated at the bar where drinking takes place. Are there any herbs or protocols that would stimulate a quicker action of sobering up? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 , " Stephen Morrissey " <stephen@b...> wrote: > Al, > > I'm only a one or two beer type myself but Pill Curing seems to work as well > as anything else I've seen for the after-effects of drinking too much. I'm > not sure if it will improve driving capability. I would try adding > Armillaria in higher amounts to the formula and see if it works. It > shouldn't be too difficult to find test subjects. You could run a pilot > study by setting up cones in a large parking lot next to a bar at 1AM. alcohol is such a simply metabolized molecule for most people that it is hard to imagine what could speed up the process. If you have six drinks in 3 hours, you are drunk, but if you wait three more hours without another drink, you are not, according to blood alcohol levels. I learned recently that 100 mg thiamine can offset the permanent negative effects of alcohol on the brain for up to 6 drinks. Unfiltered microbrew beer and stout is already high in thiamine. I suspect malted and fermented herbs like mai ya, gu ya and shenqu may also be high in this and of course will improve digestion and prevent stomach upset and perhaps headache. thiamine and large quantities of water before bed seem to dramatically lessen the severity of hangover according to reports and experiments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 > > > > Re: Sober-up herbs? >Mon, 21 May 2001 22:05:31 -0000 > >, " Stephen Morrissey " <stephen@b...> >wrote: > > Al, > > > > I'm only a one or two beer type myself but Pill Curing seems to work as >well > > as anything else I've seen for the after-effects of drinking too much. >I'm > > not sure if it will improve driving capability. I would try adding > > Armillaria in higher amounts to the formula and see if it works. It > > shouldn't be too difficult to find test subjects. You could run a pilot > > study by setting up cones in a large parking lot next to a bar at 1AM. > > >alcohol is such a simply metabolized molecule for most people that it >is hard to imagine what could speed up the process. If you have six >drinks in 3 hours, you are drunk, but if you wait three more hours >without another drink, you are not, according to blood alcohol levels. >I learned recently that 100 mg thiamine can offset the permanent >negative effects of alcohol on the brain for up to 6 drinks. >Unfiltered microbrew beer and stout is already high in thiamine. I >suspect malted and fermented herbs like mai ya, gu ya and shenqu may >also be high in this and of course will improve digestion and prevent >stomach upset and perhaps headache. thiamine and large quantities of >water before bed seem to dramatically lessen the severity of hangover >according to reports and experiments. > >Todd If I remember correctly Ge gen can be used to treat hangovers. Julie Smith Lyons, Colorado > > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 If I remember correctly Ge gen can be used to treat hangovers. Julie Smith Lyons, Colorado > > Julie, That would make sense for one aspect of hangover. If memory serves me stiff neck is only part of the pattern. Pill Curing contains 15 ingredients. Gen gen is one, others include tian ma, and bai zhi for headache, ju hua, bo he, and tian hua fen to expel wind heat, reduce fever, plus cang zhu yi mi, and fu ling to Tonify spleen and eliminate damp, and mu xiang, hou po, ju hong, and huo xiang to resolve stagnation, nausea, and vomiting, and shen qu and gu ya to dissolve food masses...which just reminds me why I try to avoid hangovers in the first place. Pueraria Flower combination appears to be a decent substitute but needs some tian ma or mi huan jun added to it in my opinion. Stephen _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 ge geng ge geng hua re: Bensky and a formula from Li Dong-Yuan's Pi wei lun ge hua jie cheng tang ge hua 15g zhu ling 5 g fu ling 5g ze xie 6g bai dou kou 15g qing pi 1g mu xiang 2 g chen pi 5g ren shen 5g bai zhu 6g shen qu 6g sha ren 15 g But Al, this is no excuse to take up drinking again. Heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 If I remember correctly Ge gen can be used to treat hangovers.>>>>>That is Ge gen Hua Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Dear lists, I remember, when we were Childhood, my mom often bought Ge gen for us to eat, they are like potatoes tase, even better because they have sweet tase and more sticky, she use to say " the ge gen reduce the heat, cool the body down, reduce yin deficiency, help Sumer heat cold or fever", any time my mom bought them, we love it, they are tase so good, It also is good nutrition and low cholesterol too. Regard Nhung Ta - alonmarcus Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:58 AM Re: Re: Sober-up herbs? If I remember correctly Ge gen can be used to treat hangovers.>>>>>That is Ge gen Hua AlonChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Nhung Ta- How did your mother cook the ge gen? Would it work with reconstituted chunks of dry ge gen? Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** " Flowers always make people better, happier, and more helpful; they are sunshine, food, and medicine to the soul. " - Luther Burbank ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Forgive me for leaving TCM a bit here, but this ancient Ayurvedic formula works very well for this: Equal parts: Pueraria Root Chrysanthemum Flowers Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Karen, they usually as big as from less than one pound to 4 pounds, the skin is better for cooling liver heat, sweet and little bitter, she used to buy already boiled, it's so delicious, good, cool and fresh smell. I just went back from Vietnam, brought some of the powder ge gen that the Vietnamese people used to make drink like soft drink, they put about 2-3 tea spools of dry powder in the cup of glasses water, pour some sugar in, then drink it, it also reduce the pimple of summer heat, any time I feel too much heat in my body or my stomach. I make some ge gen like it to cool me down. It's not cheap as potatoes,the powder I buy used to be 10$ /lb, they use to make some ( copy), because they are expensive So any time, I want to buy, I have to make sure I buy from good people who make them, the not good one( not real) is about 2-3 dollars a pound. When I feel heat, I make the drink and it make me feel full for a whole day with relassing. Probably we can use it for diet, I think. Regard Nhung Ta - Karen S Vaughan <creationsgarden Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:14 AM Re: Sober-up herbs? > Nhung Ta- > > How did your mother cook the ge gen? Would it work with reconstituted > chunks of dry ge gen? > > Karen Vaughan > CreationsGarden > *************************************** > " Flowers always make people better, happier, and more helpful; they are > sunshine, food, and medicine to the soul. " - Luther Burbank > > ______________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 - " zooky " <z00ky Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:53 PM Re: Re: Sober-up herbs? > Forgive me for leaving TCM a bit here, but this ancient Ayurvedic formula works > very well for this: > > Equal parts: > > Pueraria Root > Chrysanthemum Flowers Hi Zooky, 100 mg of Vit B with each drink totally eliminates hangovers! I speak from personal experience! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gowatson/thiamine.html Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2001 Report Share Posted July 12, 2001 Forgive me, but pueraria was mentioned a long time ago in Chinese literature for hang over. Heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2001 Report Share Posted July 12, 2001 --- Greg Watson <gowatson wrote: > 100 mg of Vit B with each drink totally eliminates hangovers! I speak from > personal experience! Hmm, which B vitamin? Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2001 Report Share Posted July 12, 2001 - " zooky " <z00ky Friday, July 13, 2001 4:09 AM Re: Re: Sober-up herbs? > > --- Greg Watson <gowatson wrote: > > > 100 mg of Vit B with each drink totally eliminates hangovers! I speak from > > personal experience! > > Hmm, which B vitamin? B1 http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gowatson/thiamine.html Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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