Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Is it really correct to say that gui zhi harmonizes ying and wei by itself? Isn't it that gui zhi tang has this function, but not the herb by itself? -- Chinese Herbal Medicine FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Gui zhi benefits the wei. . . .but needs bai shao to harmonize ying and wei. Gui zhi is warm, pungent, dispersing, circulates blood and qi, is yang natured and benefits yang. Bai shao is cool, sour, astringing, nourishes blood and yin, is yin natured. Together they are like sweet and sour, expanding and contracting, regulating the cou li, restoring equilibrium to ying and wei. On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, at 11:09 AM, > Is it really correct to say that gui zhi harmonizes ying and wei by > itself? Isn't it that gui zhi tang has this function, but not the herb > by itself? > > -- > > Director > Chinese Herbal Medicine > > FAX: > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Isn't it that gui zhi tang >>>It gui zhi and bai shao together Alon - cha Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:09 AM gui zhi Is it really correct to say that gui zhi harmonizes ying and wei byitself? Isn't it that gui zhi tang has this function, but not the herbby itself?--DirectorChinese Herbal Medicinehttp://www..orgFAX: Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Gui Zhi also go to 12 meredianssuport for kidney yang def. Nhung Ta - Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:24 PM Re: gui zhi Gui zhi benefits the wei. . . .but needs bai shao to harmonize ying and wei. Gui zhi is warm, pungent, dispersing, circulates blood and qi, is yang natured and benefits yang. Bai shao is cool, sour, astringing, nourishes blood and yin, is yin natured. Together they are like sweet and sour, expanding and contracting, regulating the cou li, restoring equilibrium to ying and wei.On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, at 11:09 AM, Is it really correct to say that gui zhi harmonizes ying and wei byitself? Isn't it that gui zhi tang has this function, but not the herbby itself?--DirectorChinese Herbal Medicinehttp://www..orgFAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 I thought that Gui Zhi Tang had two combinations in it that harmonized Ying and Wei- GuiZhi/Bai Shao and Sheng Jiang/Da Zao. Kip > [Original Message] > <alonmarcus > > 5/23/01 2:39:39 PM > Re: gui zhi > > Isn't it that gui zhi tang > >>>It gui zhi and bai shao together > Alon > - > Todd > cha > Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:09 AM > gui zhi > > > Is it really correct to say that gui zhi harmonizes ying and wei by > itself? Isn't it that gui zhi tang has this function, but not the herb > by itself? > > -- > > Director > Chinese Herbal Medicine > > FAX: > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, at 10:16 PM, Joseph Roseman wrote: > I thought that Gui Zhi Tang had two combinations in it that harmonized > Ying > and Wei- GuiZhi/Bai Shao and Sheng Jiang/Da Zao. > Kip > > Sheng jiang and da zao actually harmonize the middle burner, which produces the wei qi and ying qi. You are quoting the Bensky Formulas and Strategies text on " Ren shen bai du san " here, I believe. I don't know if this is quite accurate, but perhaps we should ask Dan Bensky on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Actually, I was quoting Philippe Sionneau's DUI YAO book (p.57): " ...When these two medicinals are combined together, they move the defensive qi, nourish the constructive qi, and harmonize the constructive and defensive. They also fortify the spleen and harmonize the middle burner. " > [Original Message] > <zrosenbe > > 5/23/01 10:31:20 PM > Re: gui zhi > > > On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, at 10:16 PM, Joseph Roseman wrote: > > > I thought that Gui Zhi Tang had two combinations in it that harmonized > > Ying > > and Wei- GuiZhi/Bai Shao and Sheng Jiang/Da Zao. > > Kip > > > > > Sheng jiang and da zao actually harmonize the middle burner, which > produces the wei qi and ying qi. You are quoting the Bensky Formulas > and Strategies text on " Ren shen bai du san " here, I believe. I don't > know if this is quite accurate, but perhaps we should ask Dan Bensky on > this one. > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, at 11:04 PM, Joseph Roseman wrote: > Actually, I was quoting Philippe Sionneau's DUI YAO book (p.57): > > " ...When these two medicinals are combined together, they move the > defensive qi, nourish the constructive qi, and harmonize the > constructive > and defensive. They also fortify the spleen and harmonize the middle > burner. " > > Philippe is quoting reliable sources, so it must be correct. However, da zao and sheng jiang work at a deeper level (via the middle burner), so the influence on the wei and qi is not as direct. Here I would assume that da zao, supplementing, sweet and warm, nourishes the ying qi, and sheng jiang, warm, pungent and dispersing, influences the wei qi. They work from the inside out, rather than at the surface, like gui zhi and bai shao. Thanks for finding the reference. Z'ev Rosenberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 An additional quote from Craig Mitchell's translation of Shang Han Lun, page 64 (commentary on construction of gui zhi tang): " Da zao boosts the center and ASSISTS peony/shao yao in boosting yin and harmonizing construction. Acrid and warm sheng jiang assists cinnamon twig in resolving the exterior. Gan cao provides interaction between the construction and the defense. " On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, at 11:04 PM, Joseph Roseman wrote: > Actually, I was quoting Philippe Sionneau's DUI YAO book (p.57): > > " ...When these two medicinals are combined together, they move the > defensive qi, nourish the constructive qi, and harmonize the > constructive > and defensive. They also fortify the spleen and harmonize the middle > burner. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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